VA pilots worried about employment 2021
The point of suggesting it be sold is so that there is at least some chance the people will keep their jobs by being absorbed into another operation.
Similarly NZ. They were not impressed with their previous association with VA and they were badly hurt in the AN debacle so there will be no way they will buy into an Australian domestic carrier.
DL?????
Gate15L... chill.... this is a pilot rumour network. A profession not known for an especially high minimum intellect entry requirement. The ability to engage the autopilot and retract the undercarriage pretty much gets you lifetime membership. Hence you read the vitriol and nonsense on these threads.
Sorry for my despair, but the great toilet paper panic has pretty much broken any faith I had in Australia.
I can't see QF buying it, they've nothing to gain apart from a monopoly
Similarly NZ. They were not impressed with their previous association with VA and they were badly hurt in the AN debacle so there will be no way they will buy into an Australian domestic carrier.
DL?????
Similarly NZ. They were not impressed with their previous association with VA and they were badly hurt in the AN debacle so there will be no way they will buy into an Australian domestic carrier.
DL?????
NZ at the time had their "own version of Borghetti" in the form of (then Chairman) Selwyn Cushing, a bloke with so much ego he used his veto rights to block SQ from buying News Corp stake of AN, despite fully knowing that his company (NZ) did not have the balance sheet to fix a ailing AN. Cushing was just one of the blokes that put the final nail in AN's coffin, with Toomey as his "sidekick".
Also to add, "the so called Messiah SQ" isn't the 'messiah' that many like to think either, considering SQ also has a mediocre record at investments in Australia and overseas (The NZ/AN bankruptcy debacle, Virgin Atlantic losses, the failed Tiger Airways Australia attempt and now the overspending of CapEx at Virgin Australia with very minimal to no return).
DL may be an opportunity, but I can't see them investing in VA. If DL does though, I can see them reducing international to LAX and AKL only, with SkyTeam partners taking over the rest of what's left of VA's international network. The nickname "Delta Australia" does compliment their "Delta UK" (Virgin Atlantic) division though.
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side note: Rarotonga totally made money during PB days. Current loading I heard are very consistent and the boys always on weight limits.
“Our main priority is to protect our operation and our crew members. We will do all we can to preserve as many jobs as possible by utilising surplus mitigation strategies such as LWOP, annual leave and long service leave. Where these options are exhausted we will have to consider other alternatives including Stand Down Days and this will be discussed with union representatives.“
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This is what the smarter airlines are doing. Keeps the Pilots on the books but reduces cash burn. As for whether RAR was profitable no PB pilot or VA Pilot would know. The issue now for VA is cash burn and USD exposure. Out of the Billion there would be a fair chunk that was already locked up for L/Cs and required deposits and MR's. It is the part that is left and is working capital that needs to be preserved and with the AUD at around 62 cents all the costs went up depending on hedging that may be in place. Going to be a hard few months for Airlines and then another year or so to come out of the economic malaise that will set in. There will be a few more go down
I can't see QF buying it, they've nothing to gain apart from a monopoly
Similarly NZ. They were not impressed with their previous association with VA and they were badly hurt in the AN debacle so there will be no way they will buy into an Australian domestic carrier.
DL?????
Similarly NZ. They were not impressed with their previous association with VA and they were badly hurt in the AN debacle so there will be no way they will buy into an Australian domestic carrier.
DL?????
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If you think that was a smart decision by Scurra .. then I bet there is a thin line of protection for any of the VA "mainline" peeps, if it gets that far.
I can't see QF buying it, they've nothing to gain apart from a monopoly
Similarly NZ. They were not impressed with their previous association with VA and they were badly hurt in the AN debacle so there will be no way they will buy into an Australian domestic carrier.
DL?????
Similarly NZ. They were not impressed with their previous association with VA and they were badly hurt in the AN debacle so there will be no way they will buy into an Australian domestic carrier.
DL?????
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Be very clear - Scurrah is only focussed on profitability. Part of why he was selected. He is a cost man. Was at QR and DP. He has made this clear when he came into the business. Which, is the absolute right thing to do for the survival of this airline. There cannot be loyalty, nor should anyone think that there should be. Those days are long gone. You are a payroll number - that is all. Everything else is all just fluff to make you feel good and keep engagement high etc...
Be very clear - Scurrah is only focussed on profitability. Part of why he was selected. He is a cost man. Was at QR and DP. He has made this clear when he came into the business. Which, is the absolute right thing to do for the survival of this airline. There cannot be loyalty, nor should anyone think that there should be. Those days are long gone. You are a payroll number - that is all. Everything else is all just fluff to make you feel good and keep engagement high etc...
Yeah, would have been nice for those Tigerair Pilots and FA's to get that same choice, instead it was a bullet to the head for about 90+ Pilots and 350+ FA's.
If you think that was a smart decision by Scurra .. then I bet there is a thin line of protection for any of the VA "mainline" peeps, if it gets that far.
If you think that was a smart decision by Scurra .. then I bet there is a thin line of protection for any of the VA "mainline" peeps, if it gets that far.
Tiger have had 6 out of 14 aircraft permanently removed. The equivalent number of Virgin aircraft would be 30 to be permanently removed. The scenarios are completely different.
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Re the NZ announcement - I would have thought operating aircrew are exempted, but that aside, it is correct to think this will decimate trans tasman traffic. Standby for more cancellations by VA, QF, JQ
What a cluster f@ck this all is.
What a cluster f@ck this all is.