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Old 12th Feb 2020, 02:42
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the company has expressed that the HND run COULD be done 2 crew, after a bedding in phase, as both ends have closer in alternates than HKG. That seems a long way off with the number of idle A330 FOs.
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Old 12th Feb 2020, 05:07
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I’m hearing rumors that vara crew have been asked to take redundancies.
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Old 12th Feb 2020, 08:35
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I’m hearing rumors that vara crew have been asked to take redundancies.
Why would VARA crew have forced redundancies?
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Why would VARA crew have forced redundancies?
Because the VARA F100 fleet is being reduced by 3 airframes.
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Old 12th Feb 2020, 10:54
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Originally Posted by Goat Whisperer
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the company has expressed that the HND run COULD be done 2 crew, after a bedding in phase, as both ends have closer in alternates than HKG. That seems a long way off with the number of idle A330 FOs.
Goat I wasn't being dramatic earlier, I think the 330 decision is all but done, announcement in March? I thought this was fairly common knowledge (well rumour...) amongst the crew aside from fluffy press release confirmation.
Explains all the running around in the village. Ask a few people there directly and evaluate the responses.
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Old 13th Feb 2020, 00:41
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Before there is any talk of redundancy the unions need to start talking about all that VA flying currently being done by Alliance.
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Old 13th Feb 2020, 00:59
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Before there is any talk of redundancy the unions need to start talking about all that VA flying currently being done by Alliance.
Hold onto your hats cos there will prob be even more now. Bring back the 190s and outsource them.
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Old 13th Feb 2020, 00:59
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Before there is any talk of redundancy the unions need to start talking about all that VA flying currently being done by Alliance.
What aeroplane should VA operate the alliance flying with.
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Old 13th Feb 2020, 04:20
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Originally Posted by Jc31
I’m hearing rumors that vara crew have been asked to take redundancies.
Why? anythings possible, but VARA are getting Tiger's A320's.... and they will expand them into the future, so I dont think VARA should be overly worried (but have a plan B guys!).
Tigerair are the ones that should be worried, with VA taking their profitable routes (PPP), downsizing and swapping over to an ancient 737 from the Airbus
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Old Mates is right. 737s have operated into Rocky, Gladstone and a lot of the other ports. Not one pilot should have to take leave without pay or redundancy while a contractor owned by the opposition is doing Virgin flying.
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Old 13th Feb 2020, 04:35
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They do have 700s which could essentially take over many of the Alliance routes with a more sustainable seat count if they are worried about the -800 being too big.

A330 FO's could take commands on the Airbus at VARA or Tiger? If they are really wanting to stick with the Airbus.


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Old 13th Feb 2020, 04:57
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They do have 700s
Only 2 left now!
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Old 13th Feb 2020, 05:23
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Originally Posted by burned_out
Why? anythings possible, but VARA are getting Tiger's A320's.... and they will expand them into the future, so I dont think VARA should be overly worried (but have a plan B guys!).
Tigerair are the ones that should be worried, with VA taking their profitable routes (PPP), downsizing and swapping over to an ancient 737 from the Airbus
Not in the near future. VARA wanted more 320s and were told no. FNP is leaving the fleet against their will next month so they're reducing the 320 and F100 fleet. Between the two, a 20% fleet reduction over a few months.
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Old 18th Feb 2020, 22:09
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Mutterings from some for all pilots to take temporary pay cut to offset the 330 pain. Where were these pilots when it came to the GDOJ and command priority debacle?
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Old 19th Feb 2020, 03:24
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Reverse date of joining for losing ones position. Now a pay cut. If true, they are drinking cool aid in Virgin head office. A mess created by poor management and ego. Once again the pointy end staff pays the price, whilst others walk away with an obscene amount of money or remain in their ivory chairs in their ivory tower, protecting their position. What a horrible industry.
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Old 19th Feb 2020, 09:39
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Originally Posted by WillieTheWimp
What aeroplane should VA operate the alliance flying with.
How about the parked Ejet E190s in Nashville that VA is still paying the leases for?
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Old 19th Feb 2020, 10:29
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Originally Posted by Servo
Reverse date of joining for losing ones position. Now a pay cut. If true, they are drinking cool aid in Virgin head office. A mess created by poor management and ego. Once again the pointy end staff pays the price, whilst others walk away with an obscene amount of money or remain in their ivory chairs in their ivory tower, protecting their position. What a horrible industry.
how about one agrees to an EBA that is silo’d for redundancies. Wide body loses work, wide body loses pilots.
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Old 19th Feb 2020, 21:21
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Originally Posted by big buddah
how about one agrees to an EBA that is silo’d for redundancies. Wide body loses work, wide body loses pilots.
Cos they want it all. They laughed and mocked how hard 737 drivers were working when they were getting paid to work 40 hr rosters. Now they want narrow bodies to pay for their leave.

Get bent.
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