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Qantas A380 grounded after door almost ripped off at Sydney Airport

Old 10th Nov 2019, 10:10
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That's what happens when you send your maintenance overseas!
Oh? Hang on...
(Relax, I'm just stirring...)
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Old 10th Nov 2019, 10:16
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Originally Posted by blow.n.gasket View Post
Honeymoon cystitis ?
Great name for a racehorse!
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Old 10th Nov 2019, 11:20
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Funny, I'm watching Outback Truckers right now, and a guy transporting a 9-meter-wide 90-tons transformer is complaining that a tourist caravan slowed him down to "just 70 kph". Need for speed, ay.
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Old 10th Nov 2019, 15:45
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Originally Posted by 320busboy View Post
Generally we donít tow with doors open, amm allows or not. Places a lot of load on the knuckle in the hinge arm. They are generally worn anyway so the bumps donít help. Also more things hanging off the side donít help with clearance from stands. Cargo doors can be hanging vertical for a tow if needed.
Just a simple maintenance error and I feel sorry for the guys kicking themselves for the mistake. They would have been under pressure to move it and probably over worked and possibly tired. as long as the skin wasnít damaged or the door frame, bolt a new door and Hing arm and guide rods tig it and off you go 1-2 shifts if you have spares on hand. Send the door to the shop. Donít know if the 380 door is glare or alloy. The guys are human and make mistakes. Not because they came to work deciding to rip off a door. But because of a bunch of factors that led to the incident.
I thought the same thing... I've seen this quite a few times over the years, even in the 'good old days' when everything was perfect and their were supposedly plenty of staff compared to today.
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Old 10th Nov 2019, 16:02
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Originally Posted by 320busboy View Post
Generally we donít tow with doors open, amm allows or not. Places a lot of load on the knuckle in the hinge arm. They are generally worn anyway so the bumps donít help. Also more things hanging off the side donít help with clearance from stands. Cargo doors can be hanging vertical for a tow if needed.
Just a simple maintenance error and I feel sorry for the guys kicking themselves for the mistake. They would have been under pressure to move it and probably over worked and possibly tired. as long as the skin wasnít damaged or the door frame, bolt a new door and Hing arm and guide rods tig it and off you go 1-2 shifts if you have spares on hand. Send the door to the shop. Donít know if the 380 door is glare or alloy. The guys are human and make mistakes. Not because they came to work deciding to rip off a door. But because of a bunch of factors that led to the incident.
That was a really nice post mate.

Despite some snide remarks, keeping an airline going with the enormous KPI pressures from those in the ivory towers is not easy. The pilots cop it, the cabin crew cop it, and the engineers cop it. Iíve been doing this for a long time, and I can tell you, sometimes it takes larger balls than I can fit in my pants to tell some suit in an office that this is going to take a little bit longer than he thinks it should.
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Old 10th Nov 2019, 16:22
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AFAIK each 380 door is a unique piece. Made afte a [email protected] scan of the fuselage. At least that's what they told me at the Donauwoerth plant making them many moons ago.
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Old 10th Nov 2019, 18:42
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Originally Posted by Duck Pilot View Post
Berealgetreal
It was 30 years ago since I was an apprentice, so things may have changed since then. However I certainly recall being told.
Regardless of this, I hope the company supports the engineers involved as it appears to be a simple mistake.
Absolutley duck pilot.

Pilots have nothing but the highest respect for engineers, make no mistake
of it. No idea how the job has no fatigue limits.

Totally feel for the guys and hope itís recognised as just a mistake. None of us go to work and hope to damage a machine, itís basically a worst nightmare scenario.
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Old 10th Nov 2019, 21:05
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The airline already has two A380s on the ground undergoing refurbishment in Brisbane and Abu Dhabi
There isn't one in Brisbane.
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Old 10th Nov 2019, 23:41
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Originally Posted by Traffic_Is_Er_Was View Post
There isn't one in Brisbane.
Its on the news, so it must be true. Secret 380 reconfig gravy train in Brisbane? nice!
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Old 11th Nov 2019, 00:02
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Dresden or Brisbane pretty close.
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Old 11th Nov 2019, 07:34
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Pity QF management made so much fanfare of retiring VH-OJU - should have kept it a few more weeks.
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Old 12th Nov 2019, 05:47
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Originally Posted by atakacs View Post
Just wondering: are towing operations undertaken with that little clearance? I'd guess that a protruding door can't add more than 1m to the whole thing.
often. Hangar docking is a total pain even with doors closed. tows into hangars without docking can still be tight. Youd be surprised the amount of tow operations there are everyday

i expect the incidence rate to be extremely low when factoring for number of tows accomplished successfully... but still... a 0 incidence rate is the target, not low incidence rates
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Old 12th Nov 2019, 11:20
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Yeah back in the GODs when I was doing tow & stow as a leading hand, I always had my wing walkers each check their side for any obstructions specifically including doors prior to any tow. I hate paperwork!!
No criticism mind, I worked the aircraft in the days when we actually had skilled people doing it and more than 1 on a shift.
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Old 13th Nov 2019, 10:01
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It was similar in the UK in the good old days ...... man watching each engine & each wing tip checked along with plenty of other people checking & a whistle if anything didnít look right ..... probably canít have that these days as someone would complain about the noise....... people on the aircraft were aeronautical trained!!
Love the name by the way musthavagander ..... we used to have some called musthavapiss. When the work was being dished out!
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