Steve Purvinas, legend
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Stopped talking to you a while back Mick, because something was "off" with your posts. You are a little too invested in this for a "retiree", you are pushing what seems to be a very specific barrow, and your interest is disingenuous with the average Pprune reader. Seems I'm not the only one who gets that feeling. Having said that, you could be the evil dwarf himself, and personally I couldn't give a rats. There are obvious "cracks" in both the 737, and Qantas managements logic. That you choose to state that you are using "logical reasoning", whilst blindly ignoring facts is your business. But it does make you look foolish. End of discussion.
Keep up the good work Steve, and disregard the other crap that turns up on here.
Keep up the good work Steve, and disregard the other crap that turns up on here.
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Here’s how I think the 737 cracks should be summed up, apologies if it has been said elsewhere. The FAA comes out with the AD with the 27,000 cycle limit. Some one senior in Qantas management says we could generate some good publicity from this. So immediately they put out a press release to say starting tonight we will inspect EVERY 737 in the Qantas fleet for the pickle fork cracks as we pride ourselves in our reputation for safety, we believe this will take us 7 days. Pro active, on the front foot and Steve Purvenas and the rest of us here would have had nothing to bitch about. Just imagine.
From the SMH:
Out of their own mouth. All Qantas has left is its “safety record”. Not customer service, not comfortable seats, not food, not schedules. It says itself it’s defining marketing advantage is “safety” and it has been doing its level best to trash that reputation by destroying its local engineering capability. Not wanting to be proactive about an emerging structural problem in the B737 says it all. Profit is put before safety.
Last week Qantas hit back at the ALAEA's calls for it to ground all 737s to carry out inspections, saying it was irresponsible and misrepresented the facts.
"Qantas will never fly a plane if we do not believe it is safe to do so. Our entire reputation, our brand, is built on a safety record," Qantas domestic chief executive Andrew David said.
"Qantas will never fly a plane if we do not believe it is safe to do so. Our entire reputation, our brand, is built on a safety record," Qantas domestic chief executive Andrew David said.
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From the SMH:
Out of their own mouth. All Qantas has left is its “safety record”. Not customer service, not comfortable seats, not food, not schedules. It says itself it’s defining marketing advantage is “safety” and it has been doing its level best to trash that reputation by destroying its local engineering capability. Not wanting to be proactive about an emerging structural problem in the B737 says it all. Profit is put before safety.
Out of their own mouth. All Qantas has left is its “safety record”. Not customer service, not comfortable seats, not food, not schedules. It says itself it’s defining marketing advantage is “safety” and it has been doing its level best to trash that reputation by destroying its local engineering capability. Not wanting to be proactive about an emerging structural problem in the B737 says it all. Profit is put before safety.
Qantas is nothing more than a focus group driven autocracy being re-shaped in the image of a perfectly inadequate emperor.
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Here’s how I think the 737 cracks should be summed up, apologies if it has been said elsewhere. The FAA comes out with the AD with the 27,000 cycle limit. Some one senior in Qantas management says we could generate some good publicity from this. So immediately they put out a press release to say starting tonight we will inspect EVERY 737 in the Qantas fleet for the pickle fork cracks as we pride ourselves in our reputation for safety, we believe this will take us 7 days. Pro active, on the front foot and Steve Purvenas and the rest of us here would have had nothing to bitch about. Just imagine.
Much better to focus on rainbow aircraft and fight gender wars.
Andrew David would not know a fusible plug from a bath plug.
Totally agree with what Qantas ‘should’ have done, but even now, how about even an ego stroking show of Weeman returning from her honeymoon for a ‘special’ or ‘emergency’ round table conference with a group of Engineers (Steve?) to hatch a plan of action to deal with a potential ‘crisis’? Perhaps use that to call on other airlines (Boeing) to follow suit? That would STILL look good, get great media play and people would be in admiration of such wise leadership....
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“Some one senior in Qantas management says we could generate some good publicity from this. So immediately they put out a press release to say starting tonight we will inspect EVERY 737 in the Qantas fleet for the pickle fork cracks as we pride ourselves in our reputation for safety, we believe this will take us 7 days.”
Who would care? Press release, Qantas have inspected some planes and found no faults. Not exactly front page news.
Question for fed sec. Out of interest, are you still employed by Qantas, extended leave, or full time ALEA?
Who would care? Press release, Qantas have inspected some planes and found no faults. Not exactly front page news.
Question for fed sec. Out of interest, are you still employed by Qantas, extended leave, or full time ALEA?
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Full time ALAEA. Worked at Qantas 1986 until 2007. Our union decided they didn't want their Fed Sec bound by Qantas policies and free to raise issues publicly if needed. Hence I took a package.
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Naughty Iron Bar. You know very well Mr Purvinas current and former work history. After all, you did work in Qantas safety didn’t you. Cheeky boy .
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[QUOTE][/You fellows have a seriously inflated view of yourselves if you think Qantas needs to run some sort of dark ops, counter-campaign on PPRuNe.org.
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Well if you’ve been on prune long enough you would very well know that is a completely incorrect statement.
Hook, line and sinker this comment pretty much exposes who you are, your line of questioning has been completely out
of the ordinary and far too specific so far and everyone has picked up on it. See you down on the street at 9am and
Ill show you how to properly be clandestine on prune......
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Well if you’ve been on prune long enough you would very well know that is a completely incorrect statement.
Hook, line and sinker this comment pretty much exposes who you are, your line of questioning has been completely out
of the ordinary and far too specific so far and everyone has picked up on it. See you down on the street at 9am and
Ill show you how to properly be clandestine on prune......
��
how about even an ego stroking show of Weeman returning from her honeymoon for a ‘special’ or ‘emergency’ round table conference with a group of Engineers (Steve?) to hatch a plan of action to deal with a potential ‘crisis’?
Despite being told numerous times that they need someone with actual experience in (for example) fuel policy application or practical solutions to operational issues, they continue to contend that that is unnecessary.
they don't even have a Pilot representative on their 'day-of-ops' dynamic Integrated Operations Centre
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P377,,,, not S377?
Nah, not me. Have made some contributions to Q safety
but none more than a paragraph or two ....
Not trying to stitch up Fed Sec, but I think the context
is important.
Clandestine black ops on PPrune? Yeah, nah. No one has the time
for that.
Nah, not me. Have made some contributions to Q safety
but none more than a paragraph or two ....
Not trying to stitch up Fed Sec, but I think the context
is important.
Clandestine black ops on PPrune? Yeah, nah. No one has the time
for that.
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