Jetstar Pulling out of regional NZ
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Can’t have Jetstar paying for maintenance.
What an AMAZING business.
I could be wrong, but I’m 99% sure they have been on the QLink AOC, the ENTIRE time. Just painted silver with an orange star on the tail.
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announcing a proposal to end our services on our New Zealand regional routes
We will announce a final decision on the proposal at the end of the required consultation process
I’m wondering what the consultation process is...... Has a decision been made or not?!? It sounded like it was, but wouldn’t they just say we’re pulling out of NZ regional??
I personally see this as a JQ created opening for the government or local regions to throw money at it. It’s been done several times before in JQ aus, Avalon particularly comes to mind and Darwin with the initial startup. Government or council throw in money and it continues, when the money runs out or is no longer offered, they pull out.
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They might be waiting until the grants from the authorities end. Its not a matter of just walking away like one striped tail loco did in Adelaide once. They had to pay back millions in grants.
I personally see this as a JQ created opening for the government or local regions to throw money at it. It’s been done several times before in JQ aus, Avalon particularly comes to mind and Darwin with the initial startup. Government or council throw in money and it continues, when the money runs out or is no longer offered, they pull out.
However I very much doubt there'll be any local government money for Jetstar either now or in the future. Every destination is also served by Air NZ, therefore any assistance offered to Jetstar would also have to be offered to Air NZ. You can bet if there was any hint of assistance being given to Jetstar but not Air NZ we would have heard about it by now.
Bloody hard to make a buck on those regional NZ routes - no matter who you are.
Back in my Air NZ days day, the legendary Roger Poulton used to give a preso.
He'd show a regional turbo prop in silhouette, and shade off various bits of the fuse to show the costs.
And the profit?
"It's right at the back of the plane... in the toilet!"
Oh and BTW - they're not gouging on the regional routes - they're absolutely frikking mint coining it on WLG-AKL.
Back in my Air NZ days day, the legendary Roger Poulton used to give a preso.
He'd show a regional turbo prop in silhouette, and shade off various bits of the fuse to show the costs.
And the profit?
"It's right at the back of the plane... in the toilet!"
Oh and BTW - they're not gouging on the regional routes - they're absolutely frikking mint coining it on WLG-AKL.
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All from Garett Evans.
I’m wondering what the consultation process is...... Has a decision been made or not?!? It sounded like it was, but wouldn’t they just say we’re pulling out of NZ regional??
I personally see this as a JQ created opening for the government or local regions to throw money at it. It’s been done several times before in JQ aus, Avalon particularly comes to mind and Darwin with the initial startup. Government or council throw in money and it continues, when the money runs out or is no longer offered, they pull out.
Jetstar has done it before.
Premier Daniel Andrews, the FA Cup of Australian politics, coughed up..
https://www.smh.com.au/business/vict...27-1mu0s3.html
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Not going to happen. There is no way there'll be any subsidy from any form of government. Not while there is someone else still providing a service, which is the case for all the routes in question. Can't subsidise one operator and not the other.
Not going to happen. There is no way there'll be any subsidy from any form of government. Not while there is someone else still providing a service, which is the case for all the routes in question. Can't subsidise one operator and not the other.
The employment contracts of the staff will likely have a ‘consultation’ clause as in other Qantas Group EA’s. This requires the company to consult with staff prior to major changes taking place that will effect their employment. It’s not worth much as the decision has been made and they won’t change their mind but I expect that to comply with these contracts they now need to pretend the final decision is still to be made.
The employment contracts of the staff will likely have a ‘consultation’ clause as in other Qantas Group EA’s. This requires the company to consult with staff prior to major changes taking place that will effect their employment. It’s not worth much as the decision has been made and they won’t change their mind but I expect that to comply with these contracts they now need to pretend the final decision is still to be made.
Good question, having read through the consultation clauses in the QF SH and LH EA’s it is hard to see what the benefit is. Perhaps it’s a Fair Work requirement, I don’t know. (Yes, I know NZ is a different jurisdiction).
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[QUOTE=MikeHatter732;10579634]They are short with captains at the moment (2 vacant spots at Sydney), but they shot themselves in the foot when they upped the command requirements recently.
MikeHatter how did they up the command requirements recently? I was under the impression they were reduced.
MikeHatter how did they up the command requirements recently? I was under the impression they were reduced.
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Qantas tried competing on NZ domestic routes about 15 years ago. The resistance from parochial Kiwis to the big bad nasty Aussies was huge. It failed. Kiwis don’t really want competition. Plus its a market of less than 5 million people. Best just to leave the Kiwis to it.
Qantas tried competing on NZ domestic routes about 15 years ago. The resistance from parochial Kiwis to the big bad nasty Aussies was huge. It failed. Kiwis don’t really want competition. Plus its a market of less than 5 million people. Best just to leave the Kiwis to it.
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The airline with no fleet!
Of course the decision to send the aircraft back to Australia absolutely nothing to do with the exhausted taxation arbitrage shell game...
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They don't really work for decisions like this. A decision to cease operations and shut up shop isn't really one that a company can shop around with all of their staff, without massively spooking their customers and investors - which would probably make the outcome into a foregone conclusion anyway. Who would book flights on an airline, when it is asking its employees whether it should cease operations?
But, if there is no exception to the clause, then 'consultation' legally has to happen.
It's now either 1000/1500 hours depending on your entry method. When people are averaging ~30 stick a month (and they are still hiring FO's, albeit ones straight from Uni
), it takes a while to get the time on type!No ifs, no buts.