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Hypothetical: the company has the A380 grounded for over 12 months, but (assuming this rumour is true) puts the A350 into service in the meantime. How many A380 crew would, if offered and within seniority rules, move to the A350 outside a RIN, just to get back to work and get a pay check?
I think there’s a good chance of qantas retiring some or all of their A380s without buying a replacement for 2-3 years or using JQ 787s as the replacement (no capital expenditure required).
Cash will still be king as airlines recover from COVID19.
It took QF a few days to secure a billion $ loan. They could go to market and do a traditional capital raising like QBE have just announced if needed. However, I know SFA, but I’d imagine they would need to have very compelling reasons to go splashing cash on 10 new birds above and beyond deposits for firm orders.
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I said it before, we will see Project Sunrise flights come into service much sooner than originally planned. Qantas is in a unique position to make it work once the international borders are open and business travel starts picking up. The 10 rumoured QF A350s could be an indication.
And yes QF has the cash to storm through this for the next 12 months as well as to purchase the A350s.
And yes QF has the cash to storm through this for the next 12 months as well as to purchase the A350s.
Anyone who thinks they have any idea about what is happening is seriously deluded.
The ‘rules’ are being rewritten by the hour and my best guess suggests there are a year of hours to go.
I sincerely hope the trough gorgers are sacked for borrowing billions for their pay packets when they convince the government to bail them out. I sincerely hope that may give a chance at redressing the bizarre decision the ‘yes’ voters made but as I did post before ‘All bets are off’.
We are less than a month into this thing.
Economically we have supply side, demand side, cash velocity and massive social security hits all at once, It’s never happened before. Ever.
The Long Beach Arena is being converted into a makeshift hospital. The Queen Mary is next.
Qantas will be bailed out - I’m arguing vehemently that those who borrowed cash to bolster their pay packets should be unceremoniously dumped. I’m trying to get muppets who voted yes another chance.....
On the Muppet point. The image posted above was appropriate! A picture of (supposedly me) being paid a fortune to be watched by those not being paid. Made a lot of sense!
That being said. Best of luck to all. Except those screwing you.
The ‘rules’ are being rewritten by the hour and my best guess suggests there are a year of hours to go.
I sincerely hope the trough gorgers are sacked for borrowing billions for their pay packets when they convince the government to bail them out. I sincerely hope that may give a chance at redressing the bizarre decision the ‘yes’ voters made but as I did post before ‘All bets are off’.
We are less than a month into this thing.
Economically we have supply side, demand side, cash velocity and massive social security hits all at once, It’s never happened before. Ever.
The Long Beach Arena is being converted into a makeshift hospital. The Queen Mary is next.
Qantas will be bailed out - I’m arguing vehemently that those who borrowed cash to bolster their pay packets should be unceremoniously dumped. I’m trying to get muppets who voted yes another chance.....
On the Muppet point. The image posted above was appropriate! A picture of (supposedly me) being paid a fortune to be watched by those not being paid. Made a lot of sense!
That being said. Best of luck to all. Except those screwing you.
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Anyone who thinks they have any idea about what is happening is seriously deluded.
The ‘rules’ are being rewritten by the hour and my best guess suggests there are a year of hours to go.
I sincerely hope the trough gorgers are sacked for borrowing billions for their pay packets when they convince the government to bail them out. I sincerely hope that may give a chance at redressing the bizarre decision the ‘yes’ voters made but as I did post before ‘All bets are off’.
We are less than a month into this thing.
Economically we have supply side, demand side, cash velocity and massive social security hits all at once, It’s never happened before. Ever.
The Long Beach Arena is being converted into a makeshift hospital. The Queen Mary is next.
Qantas will be bailed out - I’m arguing vehemently that those who borrowed cash to bolster their pay packets should be unceremoniously dumped. I’m trying to get muppets who voted yes another chance.....
On the Muppet point. The image posted above was appropriate! A picture of (supposedly me) being paid a fortune to be watched by those not being paid. Made a lot of sense!
That being said. Best of luck to all. Except those screwing you.
The ‘rules’ are being rewritten by the hour and my best guess suggests there are a year of hours to go.
I sincerely hope the trough gorgers are sacked for borrowing billions for their pay packets when they convince the government to bail them out. I sincerely hope that may give a chance at redressing the bizarre decision the ‘yes’ voters made but as I did post before ‘All bets are off’.
We are less than a month into this thing.
Economically we have supply side, demand side, cash velocity and massive social security hits all at once, It’s never happened before. Ever.
The Long Beach Arena is being converted into a makeshift hospital. The Queen Mary is next.
Qantas will be bailed out - I’m arguing vehemently that those who borrowed cash to bolster their pay packets should be unceremoniously dumped. I’m trying to get muppets who voted yes another chance.....
On the Muppet point. The image posted above was appropriate! A picture of (supposedly me) being paid a fortune to be watched by those not being paid. Made a lot of sense!
That being said. Best of luck to all. Except those screwing you.
Calling all the “yes” voters “muppets” in this environment...
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Double Sunrise
So what's the latest? The previous thread has been closed and we are planning on a Oz trip in 2025 from London to Sydney. Now given 25 hrs etc on a no stop flight would not be everyone cup of tea we would be flying First Class. Well can't take my money with me, so spend it while I can...
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So what's the latest? The previous thread has been closed and we are planning on a Oz trip in 2025 from London to Sydney. Now given 25 hrs etc on a no stop flight would not be everyone cup of tea we would be flying First Class. Well can't take my money with me, so spend it while I can...
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As to the 350s, it’s hard to say at the moment. There are all sorts of rumours swirling around. As Window Heat mentioned, the fuel tanks required for the range are causing issues. Apparently adding too much weight. I’ve heard that they’re thinking about scrapping it for the moment just to get the aircraft on the line, but that’s just a rumour and I feel like management would rather save face and keep persevering with something that might not even be possible.
It would be nice to have an official announcement. But I guess if it’s not going to plan, they don’t want to admit the stuff up.
It would be nice to have an official announcement. But I guess if it’s not going to plan, they don’t want to admit the stuff up.
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Solid contribution for someone who signed up a few days ago. You'll fit in with the likes of Dejapoo and Thumbwar perfectly.
As to the 350s, it’s hard to say at the moment. There are all sorts of rumours swirling around. As Window Heat mentioned, the fuel tanks required for the range are causing issues. Apparently adding too much weight. I’ve heard that they’re thinking about scrapping it for the moment just to get the aircraft on the line, but that’s just a rumour and I feel like management would rather save face and keep persevering with something that might not even be possible.
It would be nice to have an official announcement. But I guess if it’s not going to plan, they don’t want to admit the stuff up.
As to the 350s, it’s hard to say at the moment. There are all sorts of rumours swirling around. As Window Heat mentioned, the fuel tanks required for the range are causing issues. Apparently adding too much weight. I’ve heard that they’re thinking about scrapping it for the moment just to get the aircraft on the line, but that’s just a rumour and I feel like management would rather save face and keep persevering with something that might not even be possible.
It would be nice to have an official announcement. But I guess if it’s not going to plan, they don’t want to admit the stuff up.
Management won’t care. Alan got his headline that’s all it ever was just to pump up his bonus and protect his legacy. Given the amount of own goals Boeing are kicking at the moment Airbus won’t be doing the same for just one customer so if they can’t do it they won’t be.
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As to the 350s, it’s hard to say at the moment. There are all sorts of rumours swirling around. As Window Heat mentioned, the fuel tanks required for the range are causing issues. Apparently adding too much weight. I’ve heard that they’re thinking about scrapping it for the moment just to get the aircraft on the line, but that’s just a rumour and I feel like management would rather save face and keep persevering with something that might not even be possible.
The real issue I think is to LHR. The track flies straight over a nation that is currently politically unviable for any Australian airline to fly over, lest alone they need to make an emergency landing in that nation. Flying a track away that doesn’t go over that country would be too much of a stretch, even for the -1000ULR.
As it looks like the pariah status of that nation won’t be changing for the foreseeable future I doubt that’ll become an option before the flights were due to start.
The standard A350-1000 range without the extra fuel tank would be just enough to do SYD-JFK, and maybe MEL too but with potentially a few less pax. There’s also the 350-900ULR that’s already in service with SQ and has the extra range of the -1000ULR, but sacrifices some passenger capacity. So there’s options on the routes to NYC.
The real issue I think is to LHR. The track flies straight over a nation that is currently politically unviable for any Australian airline to fly over, lest alone they need to make an emergency landing in that nation. Flying a track away that doesn’t go over that country would be too much of a stretch, even for the -1000ULR.
As it looks like the pariah status of that nation won’t be changing for the foreseeable future I doubt that’ll become an option before the flights were due to start.
The real issue I think is to LHR. The track flies straight over a nation that is currently politically unviable for any Australian airline to fly over, lest alone they need to make an emergency landing in that nation. Flying a track away that doesn’t go over that country would be too much of a stretch, even for the -1000ULR.
As it looks like the pariah status of that nation won’t be changing for the foreseeable future I doubt that’ll become an option before the flights were due to start.
