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Old 22nd Oct 2019, 03:54
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I’ve never heard of a pilot not bidding to the 78 because of the crew rest.
You have now🤓 No way I’m going to an aircraft flying that long that doesn’t have proper individual crew rest areas. The best part about going off for a break is relieving the cramps and farting to your hearts content, all in the privacy of your own room. That curtain just wouldn’t cut it. 20 hours of gas has to go somewhere, nothing worse than sitting up the front with crook guts. The 380 was great, so too the 330. Mind you, now on the maggot I’ve learnt to just pass wind as the need arises and blame the meals cooking in the forward galley, but probably not very gentlemanly on the 787 if you get my drift. So no deal for me😀
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Old 22nd Oct 2019, 04:17
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You have now🤓 No way I’m going to an aircraft flying that long that doesn’t have proper individual crew rest areas. The best part about going off for a break is relieving the cramps and farting to your hearts content, all in the privacy of your own room. That curtain just wouldn’t cut it. 20 hours of gas has to go somewhere, nothing worse than sitting up the front with crook guts. The 380 was great, so too the 330. Mind you, now on the maggot I’ve learnt to just pass wind as the need arises and blame the meals cooking in the forward galley, but probably not very gentlemanly on the 787 if you get my drift. So no deal for me😀
Qantas : We're sorry to announce but it will not be going ahead as pilots are unable to fart conveniently.
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Old 22nd Oct 2019, 04:27
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Qantas : We're sorry to announce but it will not be going ahead as pilots are unable to fart conveniently.
Nah. Easily solved. Management will just include a few pairs of these in the new pay contract.

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Old 22nd Oct 2019, 11:42
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Or, a seat to eat dinner, watch a movie and a place to stretch out ?
Life's tough at work in the pointy end.
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Old 23rd Oct 2019, 01:33
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Why Little Napoleon fiddles

Busy scrap booking the experience, Little Napoleon is enjoying the warm glow of adulation from all the hack journalists on the "research flight"

Aside from that, it was truly a unique experience. After all, it’s not every flight that you see an airline CEO doing calisthenics in his pajamas.
Meanwhile just a few hours away, once again Air New Zealand actually get on with it...

https://www.smh.com.au/business/comp...23-p533bl.html
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Old 23rd Oct 2019, 01:51
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Originally Posted by Rated De

Meanwhile just a few hours away, once again Air New Zealand actually get on with it...

https://www.smh.com.au/business/comp...23-p533bl.html
Lets just hope we have enough engines with more than 120 EDTO to make it happen....

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Old 23rd Oct 2019, 04:35
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Bit harsh Rated, would QF not be getting on with it if there was already an aircraft capable? Yes me tinks.

ANZ are in a great spot at being able to start with current metal or carbon, for Aussies it’s still one stop to the apple not direct.

When the Sunrise aircraft are capable I’m sure the getting on with it part will be complete, what is it now that they are doing in regards to this ULH which is not getting on with it?

In regards to the rest of the fleet NFI, yes the 73’s will need replacing, the 330’s, etc, as is said this is the problem or is the order of a gazillion busses the SH solution?

Just spinning positive light where all negative doom and gloom is pushed.
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Old 23rd Oct 2019, 06:09
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ANZ are in a great spot at being able to start with current metal or carbon, for Aussies it’s still one stop to the apple not direct.
On Qantas it will still be one stop for the whole country except Sydney anyway. The added bonus is the connection is not through SYD.
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Old 23rd Oct 2019, 07:13
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Soooo..did qantas charge anyone on the flight for the seat?
Yes. There were commercial customers originally booked JFK - MEL via LAX offered to transfer to this flight to participate in the ‘research’.
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Fortunately, and (just like the share options!) in the nick of time, it seems a solution may be coming to fruition. Some might pooh-pooh the idea but all QF have to do is push any symptoms out beyond retirement age and job done! If you can engineer the oil price and share options, a cure for long term circadian rhythm disruption is clearly a walk in the park! Could I love him (her??) more???? Elaine does care for crew - it's obvious to me now*.

The first treatment to slow Alzheimer’s disease could soon be available to millions, it was dramatically announced last night.

Drugs giant Biogen shook the medical world by unexpectedly releasing results suggesting it has developed the first effective medicine for the disease.

After years of high-profile dementia trial failures, experts last night welcomed the ‘transformative discovery’ as a ‘hugely exciting’ breakthrough that could be life changing for dementia patients.

Crucially, the company said trial data for drug aducanumab is strong enough to apply for medicine licences in the US, Europe and Japan early next year. That in itself is a huge milestone.
* I'm enjoying a lovely drink of Victory Gin at the Chestnut Tree Cafe at The Street, QCC. I love Elaine and Elaine loves me. I've found peace at last.

To save those with a more modern taste in literature searching endlessly, I post the following:
​​​​​​Winston (Nathan Safe??) spends lots of time at the Chestnut Tree Cafe, where the waiters keep his glass full of Victory Gin. He has been given a sinecure by the Party, a job with high pay and very little actual work, so he can spend a lot of time at the cafe and lots of money on gin.

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Old 23rd Oct 2019, 08:59
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Originally Posted by V-Jet
Fortunately, and (just like the share options!) in the nick of time, it seems a solution may be coming to fruition. Some might pooh-pooh the idea but all QF have to do is push any symptoms out beyond retirement age and job done! If you can engineer the oil price and share options, a cure for long term circadian rhythm disruption is clearly a walk in the park! Could I love him (her??) more???? Elaine does care for crew - it's obvious to me now*.



* I'm enjoying a lovely drink of Victory Gin at the Chestnut Tree Cafe at The Street, QCC. I love Elaine and Elaine loves me. I've found peace at last.

To save those with a more modern taste in literature searching endlessly, I post the following:
Brilliant....

Table for one Winston?
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Old 23rd Oct 2019, 18:31
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If this is true then it’s a massive issue for Qantas!
Or perhaps a non-issue, if they can get exemptions this easily for the next couple flights it does suggest that CASA is already on their side.
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Old 23rd Oct 2019, 21:07
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Originally Posted by Traffic_Is_Er_Was
Life's tough at work in the pointy end.
Actually, it’s called rest. Governed by regulation, and enabling the flight to be operated legally. It’s not meant to be tough. That’s why it’s called ‘rest’. And, it’s not done in the pointy end.

Other than that, your post was very clever.
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Old 23rd Oct 2019, 21:16
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There were six Qantas Frequent Flyer passengers on board. Both these articles were posted earlier in the thread if you care to read them.

The 50-year-old travels overseas often for his work for an environment services firm and is one of six passengers who were due to fly home from New York this weekend but agreed to be human guinea pigs on Qantas’ test flights instead.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/comp...20-p532d8.html

Passengers included several Qantas frequent flyers participating in the research study, off-duty Qantas employees, researchers, and media, including this reporter.
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/w...sydney-2019-10
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Old 23rd Oct 2019, 21:35
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Really? How does that work? Wasn’t it supposed to be a private flight? How could it be a commercial flight with fare paying pax if it exceeded every commercial flight time limitation in the regs?
The Frequent Flyer's were refunded their fare to participate in the flight.

There is a subtle difference between being "the longest commercial flight" and "the longest flight by a commercial airline"; something Qantas media people were in no hurry to point out.
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Old 23rd Oct 2019, 22:58
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Are these trial flights actually delivery flights?
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Old 23rd Oct 2019, 23:22
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Originally Posted by clark y
Are these trial flights actually delivery flights?
Yes.

100% correlation there for the statistically minded.

Three "research flights" equals three delivery flights.

Zero cost and zero science, but some PR for a "project" that Little Napoleon now suggests might not happen if at all, until 2023.
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Old 23rd Oct 2019, 23:31
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Thanks Rated.
Cheap delivery flights and cheap advertising.

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Old 24th Oct 2019, 02:06
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Three "research flights" equals three delivery flights.
Zero cost
Hardly zero cost. Zero cost would be to fly it from Seattle direct to Australia. Flying down to LA then over to JFK then back across the US would add tens of thousands of dollars fuel burn alone.

Equally, flying over the Atlantic to LHR for the other flights will have a significant cost. Not to say it’s not a a PR stunt but they are paying for the exposure, it’s certainly not zero cost.
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Old 24th Oct 2019, 03:30
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Originally Posted by Beer Baron

Hardly zero cost. Zero cost would be to fly it from Seattle direct to Australia. Flying down to LA then over to JFK then back across the US would add tens of thousands of dollars fuel burn alone.

Equally, flying over the Atlantic to LHR for the other flights will have a significant cost. Not to say it’s not a a PR stunt but they are paying for the exposure, it’s certainly not zero cost.
You beat me to it!
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