Project Sunrise
i think you might find that our Jetstar cousins have introduced SO’s on most of their 787 flights now, couldn’t tell you what limit they use for 2 crew though.
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So has the sun set on Project Sunrise?
Like Red Q, a Terminal Decline of Qantas International, JQ HK, a game changing alliance with EK and a Dubai hub all down the memory hole?
Will Qantas actually commit the CAP EX?
Will they actually admit their "project" in the end amounts to buying an off the shelf aircraft?
The question might now be posited, who cops the blame?
Like Red Q, a Terminal Decline of Qantas International, JQ HK, a game changing alliance with EK and a Dubai hub all down the memory hole?
Will Qantas actually commit the CAP EX?
Will they actually admit their "project" in the end amounts to buying an off the shelf aircraft?
The question might now be posited, who cops the blame?
- The pesky pilots who wouldn't do more for less?
- The manufacturer who would only offer a product off the shelf, not committing to a few billion in R& D for Qantas to order 12...
- The Regulator, who despite Chairman's Lounge membership and upgrades, just can't give Qantas what the "business case" demands like a 30 hour day...
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So has the sun set on Project Sunrise?
Like Red Q, a Terminal Decline of Qantas International, JQ HK, a game changing alliance with EK and a Dubai hub all down the memory hole?
Will Qantas actually commit the CAP EX?
Will they actually admit their "project" in the end amounts to buying an off the shelf aircraft?
The question might now be posited, who cops the blame?
Like Red Q, a Terminal Decline of Qantas International, JQ HK, a game changing alliance with EK and a Dubai hub all down the memory hole?
Will Qantas actually commit the CAP EX?
Will they actually admit their "project" in the end amounts to buying an off the shelf aircraft?
The question might now be posited, who cops the blame?
- The pesky pilots who wouldn't do more for less?
- The manufacturer who would only offer a product off the shelf, not committing to a few billion in R& D for Qantas to order 12...
- The Regulator, who despite Chairman's Lounge membership and upgrades, just can't give Qantas what the "business case" demands like a 30 hour day...
Rated, Qantas has consistently stated that it would make a decision by the end of the year, once it had an answer on all of these questions. It has the answer on Airbus and Boeing's offer, and appears to have been quite happy with the specs. On the others, it is working with CASA and the unions on crewing, both of which will take time. There is literally no new news here - why don't we wait and see what happens, rather than hypothesising or constructing narratives in advance?
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Agreed! I would have assumed that the starting point for AIPA would be 787 + X.
Why start with the 787 award when the A330 conditions provide for a lower hourly rate?
Perhaps you misread the email or relied on the quote above but what was actually written was...
(My bold)
So this is not an indication of what they would accept for the ‘Sunrise’ aircraft. I am sure they will be pushing for better terms and conditions on whatever aircraft that may turn out to be.
On this basis, the AIPA CoM has directed that there will be no reduction to the terms and conditions for the operation of the B787 aircraft.
So this is not an indication of what they would accept for the ‘Sunrise’ aircraft. I am sure they will be pushing for better terms and conditions on whatever aircraft that may turn out to be.
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Am I correct in saying that the premise for the company acquiring more 787 aircraft was predicated on renegotiating the current contract?
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The company want a lowering of some 787 conditions as an offset to by the sunrise aircraft.
Have another read of what was actually demanded. I had to. Quite a development!
Move productivity required even after 30% given on an agreement with the ink still wet before any more 787’s ordered in addition to Project Sunrire.
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Hasn’t Qantas just taken delivery of another 787 Sim (2 787 Sims in Sydney plus about 50% use of Jetstar sim in Melbourne). Pretty poor planning by Qantas if they are only going to have a fleet of 14 aircraft!
Considering 3 737 Sims for 80 aircraft??
Considering 3 737 Sims for 80 aircraft??
They have two sims with a rumoured third coming to Brisbane . They have the remaining optioned aircraft at a never to be repeated price, they will order them IMO. It’s all about bullying the pilots with shiny jet syndrome.