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Old 11th Dec 2019, 02:25
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Just listened to a GT interview on the radio today. He stated "the emails I am getting" seems to indicate they have shelved the idea. The Aircraft can't do it, and the pilots won't do it, was the gist of it.
Based on GT's record it most certainly is a goer then!
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Old 11th Dec 2019, 04:03
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Should the "project" that lacked an airframe capable, and at present, a regulator captured and pilot group beholden be shelved, it joins a long list.
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  • Red Q to be headquartered in Malaysia, no wait Singapore, er just don't ask.
  • A terminal Qantas, transformed. Not an aircraft, contract or network change to be seen. All rather curious.
  • JQ HK that never actually complied with the rules required for principal place of business requirements. Desperately getting Pansy Ho on board. Herself a dubious character considered not fit and proper in Las Vegas...Quietly dropped with an execution price far greater than they admit publicly.
  • JQ Asia's expansion, the Road to Nowhere. Foreign owned but paid for by Qantas shareholders. Ten years and counting with massive restructuring costs and not a tangible dollar of profit in sight.
  • JQ Vietnam, good money after bad, no tangible profit from this "associate" entity. It did cost the shareholder s a classified fortune to release their management from Hanoi.
  • An Emirates Alliance generating precisely how much additional revenue? Lots actually for Emirates, Qantas are reluctant to say.
  • Moving their hub from Singapore to Dubai, to change the game. Cost $60 million
  • Move said Hub back to Singapore, cost circa $50 million. (Perhaps this answers the point above)

On the plus side, the intervention in the Israel Folau saga never saw open court, gay marriage was secured and Little Napoleon now a wealthy individual, got married.

With the Jetstar illusion under pressure, a change in the pilot union and Christmas approaching, Little Napoleon will be scratching around for a distraction...

Could a subsidiary be bought in to start another of the internal wars his "legacy" is famous for?
In the meantime, Qantas sizzles like the Australian bush!

Leadership..
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Old 11th Dec 2019, 09:55
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Originally Posted by Chad Gates
Just listened to a GT interview on the radio today. He stated "the emails I am getting" seems to indicate they have shelved the idea. The Aircraft can't do it, and the pilots won't do it, was the gist of it.
He’s probably subscribed to this very thread.
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Old 12th Dec 2019, 20:43
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So the rather hyped board meeting is being held today, with last nights communication from AIPA indicating no agreement has been reached with the company.

I have a feeling the company will proceed with an offer direct to the pilots, which you would hope will be knocked back in principle.

Project sunset?
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A350-1000.

Decision delayed until March
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Old 12th Dec 2019, 21:30
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This ‘gap’ that they’re trying to close seems larger than what the company had originally anticipated. Will need all the time they can muster I’d say.
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Old 12th Dec 2019, 21:42
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Originally Posted by KZ Kiwi
A350-1000.

Decision delayed until March
Up to 12 aircraft... Wow, big spenders. I bet the Boeing boys are very upset.
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Old 12th Dec 2019, 21:58
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Interesting they’ve gone rollers though.

The 350 was a no brainer. It’s a start of life design. The 777 is an end of life design.

Anyway I’ll believe it when I see it on the ramp.
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Old 12th Dec 2019, 22:15
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Originally Posted by Blueskymine
Interesting they’ve gone rollers though.

The 350 was a no brainer. It’s a start of life design. The 777 is an end of life design.

Anyway I’ll believe it when I see it on the ramp.
You can't get an A350 without RR engines (or an 777X without GE) so engine choice was not really a factor.
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Old 12th Dec 2019, 22:34
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Originally Posted by 1A_Please
You can't get an A350 without RR engines (or an 777X without GE) so engine choice was not really a factor.
Exactly, which is why I thought the 777 may have got over the line.
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Old 12th Dec 2019, 22:37
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A whole year circle jerk.....For an off the shelf aircraft..

So the pilot "savings" haven't been achieved yet they still needed an aircraft..

Who knew.
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Old 12th Dec 2019, 22:57
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330/350 MVR will be a nightmare. Just ask the Cathay pilots.

787/777x I could understand.
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Old 12th Dec 2019, 23:04
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330/350 MVR will be a nightmare. Just ask the Cathay pilots.

787/777x I could understand.
Actually it would be great. North south in a 330 & domestic or a combination of ultra long haul and long haul.

The 787/777 would be long haul or ultra long haul.

Differences aside, a bus is a bus. If you can fly one, you can jump in any with minimal training.
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Old 12th Dec 2019, 23:08
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Ahhh but will Aus try and reinvent the wheel with 330/350 flying?

It seems that will be how QF get the most out of drivers.

ULH only would mean minimal sectors (as I’ve said re the original SQ 340 days).
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Old 12th Dec 2019, 23:10
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Originally Posted by Rated De
A whole year circle jerk.....For an off the shelf aircraft..

So the pilot "savings" haven't been achieved yet they still needed an aircraft..

Who knew.
It’s not exactly an “off the shelf” aircraft, Airbus have added an additional fuel tank and increased the MTOW. What were you expecting dopey?
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Old 12th Dec 2019, 23:11
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Australia's Civil Aviation Safety Authority needs to approve the flights of up to 21 hours, and Qantas said on Friday the regulator had "provisionally advised" that it saw no issues with pilot fatigue management on the new routes.
How fortunate that no science is required by a duplicitous and captured regulator. Chairman's lounge membership assured.

The hurdle rate achieved by threatening or cajoling union executives. Probably a little from column A and a little from Column B.

With the Lead IR negotiator a former AIPA President it seems a few months more pressure ought do the job.
Which subsidiary will it be who will do the flying...
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Old 12th Dec 2019, 23:52
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Originally Posted by Rated De
How fortunate that no science is required by a duplicitous and captured regulator. Chairman's lounge membership assured.

The hurdle rate achieved by threatening or cajoling union executives. Probably a little from column A and a little from Column B.

With the Lead IR negotiator a former AIPA President it seems a few months more pressure ought do the job.
Which subsidiary will it be who will do the flying...
Oh god, do you have anything better to do with your days

It’s bordering on obsessive
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Old 13th Dec 2019, 01:05
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Gee, lucky Airbus have given Joyce and the pilots “one extra month” to reach an agreement before their orders slip... better vote yes straight away!
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Old 13th Dec 2019, 01:16
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Oh god, do you have anything better to do with your days

It’s bordering on obsessive
Don read it then?
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morno, you do know about the ignore function right? If you don't like it, here is a direct link to your User CP to block Rated De, just yes hit and you'll never see another post again, nor bother us with your complaints.
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