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Old 22nd Aug 2019, 07:22
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Originally Posted by Berealgetreal View Post
The ďgame changeĒ program obviously devastating he QF bottom line. Crisis meetings 24/7.

Whats happening in ADL?
Rumour is:
The Qantas Adelaide based 737 pilots (captains anyway) are voting yes as they believe this will save the base, or something line that. Most are training captains. I've no idea if they have an agenda or not, but the rumours are strong.
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Old 22nd Aug 2019, 07:27
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Originally Posted by Chad Gates View Post
Rumour is:
The Qantas Adelaide based 737 pilots (captains anyway) are voting yes as they believe this will save the base, or something line that. Most are training captains. I've no idea if they have an agenda or not, but the rumours are strong.
Of course they would, always back the horse called self interest.

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Old 22nd Aug 2019, 07:40
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Originally Posted by Chad Gates View Post
Rumour is:
The Qantas Adelaide based 737 pilots (captains anyway) are voting yes as they believe this will save the base, or something line that. Most are training captains. I've no idea if they have an agenda or not, but the rumours are strong.
How many Captains in ADL? Low 30's? And yes, you must have heard the same rumour.
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Old 22nd Aug 2019, 07:47
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Why would voting yes save the ADL base?

Is it in danger of closing?
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Old 22nd Aug 2019, 07:51
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Yeah then they close the base the next day..
Doubt a yes or no would change the outcome.
Pretty clear you have the numbers for ADL base.
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Old 22nd Aug 2019, 08:31
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Wonder how many ThankQ points you get for a Yes vote?
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Old 22nd Aug 2019, 09:11
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Originally Posted by pinkpanther1 View Post
$1.3 Billion group profit before tax with record revenue. Not a bad result given the goings on of the world.
There is a rather large chasm between a "management preferred profit measure" (Non-statutory) versus a statutory measure.

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Old 22nd Aug 2019, 09:21
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Originally Posted by Chad Gates View Post
Rumour is:
The Qantas Adelaide based 737 pilots (captains anyway) are voting yes as they believe this will save the base, or something line that. Most are training captains. I've no idea if they have an agenda or not, but the rumours are strong.
That rumour, if true, is moronic logic.

If the base is costing the company money (which it’s not) then it probably still wouldn’t close. This takes the cake for the biggest scaremongering campaign this season.

We wouldn’t be having this discussion if the architect and biggest proponent of the base wasn’t soon to be MEL based.

If true, I shake my head and again ponder the intellect of pilots.

Nothing would cause the bases closure faster than an alienated AIPA membership demanding its closure in preference for better patterns.

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Old 22nd Aug 2019, 13:03
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Iíve never heard such rubbish re closing the base. And just how acceptance of this deal on the table would sway that one way or the other is beyond me.

But it is a rumour network, so whatever floats your boat...

#voteno

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Old 23rd Aug 2019, 04:27
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No Vote recorded, the next day management says
”That’s it! The ADL base is closing with immediate effect!”

If anyone actually believed that as a fact or if it does happen I will swim in and drink the outflow of the river Torrens until the
Gastro set in and then admit myself to hospital.

Im guessing the result will be about 85/15 No vote, you always have the minority of scaredy cats that will, vote Yes even if it meant cutting your pay with more hours worked lol!
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Old 23rd Aug 2019, 05:58
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No Vote recorded, the next day management says
ĒThatís it! The ADL base is closing with immediate effect!Ē
That might actually increase the No vote as many believe the fact the ADL base exists reduces density across the other bases.

(For what itís worth, I donít believe the rumour and I wouldnít wish the base closure on my ADL colleagues)
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Old 23rd Aug 2019, 09:50
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ADL has the best flying by far, dense and avoids SYD and MEL much more than other bases. It rocks!
Side note no one is voting on this agreement wrt an ADL base issue they will be voting on it as a shithouse proposition.
If only the company would lock out short haul , it would rock! Haven’t had leave for ages!
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Old 23rd Aug 2019, 11:31
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The ADL base has the most number of pole smokers and rorters amongst the training captains in the entire history of QF. They all love Alan and are true believers.

The training captains there (majority of the base) pull all the super dense flying supposedly in the name of "training" but really so they can get days off and then they abuse and threaten any other Captain or F/O on social media who dare to question their massive authority.

One non-training captain asked reasonable questions about the roster rorting and was run out of the place basically. Had to go to Perth to stop being victimised.

If a no vote kills Adelaide I will be voting no for sure.
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Old 23rd Aug 2019, 14:00
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Gold!

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Old 23rd Aug 2019, 21:57
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Well thatís disturbing.
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Old 23rd Aug 2019, 23:13
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In other news the fltops website has crashed from too many folks downloading the adl eligible bidders list for inspection...

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Old 24th Aug 2019, 00:22
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This is nonsense.

Thereís no value in pitting one base vs another. Vote for/against the EBA on its merits.

Once upon a time it was basically all Sydney, now itís much better. With a more de-centralised base system it affords the choice of any of the 5 major cities for pilots to live in and itís easier on the home/family life to be close to their city of origin if they wish. Thereís a lot of untold value in that and itíll reduce stress and anxiety amongst the group as well. All pilots have had to move multiple times in their career but the fact that most can now reside in their place of origin is a good thing, and should be upheld, regardless of effects on density etc.

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Old 24th Aug 2019, 01:17
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Yeah, it’s a good thing.

Unless you actually live in Sydney, which is now so senior it’s ridiculous.
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Old 24th Aug 2019, 01:21
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Originally Posted by ruprecht View Post
Yeah, itís a good thing.

Unless you actually live in Sydney, which is now so senior itís ridiculous.
Exactly!!!! For those of us that moved to sydney and set up here they just keep moving the goal posts. Guess itíll be junior in about 20 years.
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Old 25th Aug 2019, 12:56
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Why everything isnít as great as Qantas makes it out to be

https://thenewdaily.com.au/life/trav...ation-numbers/
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