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Old 16th Dec 2019, 08:39
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 08:41
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Originally Posted by Angle of Attack
As if they are going to sack 50 pilots lol, god these are kindergarten media releases, they can hardly get enough pilots let alone start sacking them lol, amateur hour in the Jetstar tactics room!
Oh really?

I’ll pin my career security & aspirations to your brilliant assertion above will I? No, I think not if you don’t mind.
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 09:09
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Originally Posted by FOI


Oh really?

I’ll pin my career security & aspirations to your brilliant assertion above will I? No, I think not if you don’t mind.
The gullibility of some
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Best of luck all you J* guys!!
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 09:31
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That is comical genius...
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 09:33
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I was surprised to learn JQ withdrew from the MEL-SIN-MEL route 2 weeks ago.
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 09:56
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I was surprised to learn JQ withdrew from the MEL-SIN-MEL route 2 weeks ago.
With a daily Qantas 380 service probably to many seats.
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 09:57
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I was surprised to learn JQ withdrew from the MEL-SIN-MEL route 2 weeks ago.
Scoot drove them out. Scooter is currently twice daily on the route, JQ was down to a pointless 2 and 3 weekly. They drove them off Perth also.

Connections on the other end probably count. I remember Tiger Singapore said Perth was one it’s best performing routes profit wise. Yet Jetstar said it was one of its poorest performing. They have had issues making much in Asia work for a while now.
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 10:00
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There’s no doubt that industrial action is expensive and frustrating but we have to hold the line on costs or it threatens the long term sustainability of our business,” Mr Evans said.
Spelling error Gareth here I'll fix it for you;

There’s no doubt that industrial action is expensive and frustrating but we have to hold the line on costs or it threatens the long term sustainability of our bonuses,” Mr Evans said.
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 12:35
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Interesting how some laugh at the possible loss of 50 jobs....

Obviously not your job that is on the line otherwise you would not be so flippant about it.
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 12:37
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Originally Posted by A little birdie
Must be only a few days until JQ international is declared ‘terminal decline’!
50 is correct...25 Capt, 25 F.O’s
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 19:19
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50 has a nice ring to it, doesn’t it? A good round number to send a strong message to all.

It’s been used before against pilots:

The Stalag Luft III murders were war crimesperpetrated by members of the Gestapofollowing the "Great Escape" of Allied prisoners of war from the German Air Force prison camp known as Stalag Luft III on March 25, 1944. Of the 76 successful escapees 73 were recaptured, mostly within several days of the breakout, 50 of whom were executed on the personal orders of Adolf Hitler. These summary executions were conducted within a short period of recapture..
Being the type of people/adversaries they are, they weren’t going to take any action lying down. Stay calm and good luck.
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 19:24
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50 is correct...25 Capt, 25 F.O’s
Can someone explain how the possible loss of 3 787s equals 50 loss of jobs and a further 50 demotions? How full of BS are these morons?
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 19:43
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I remember Tiger Singapore said Perth was one it’s best performing routes profit wise. Yet Jetstar said it was one of its poorest performing. They have had issues making much in Asia work for a while now.
The restructure cicra 2009 cost Qantas a lot of money. A token resident "majority" owner in Singapore, yet all invoices lead to Coward Street.

Over a decade of no tangible profit, other than some window dressing leases to cover substantive operating losses.
Grand strategy right there.
The Singaporeans quite rightly laughed them out of the place.
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 19:49
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Having to sack 50 pilots when there is a perfectly good MOU available...🙄
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 20:27
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If they use the old 7 crews per aircraft numbers it’s not too far off.
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About the only smart thing that Geoff Dixon ever said was that “a fare that you can’t charge all the time is a sign of an unsustainable business”. The problem with the low fare model is that it doesn’t pass the test of increasing business costs. If JQ fares can’t cope with a reasonable increase in labour costa and conditions, charge more. Simplistic I know but what you charge has to cover your costs.
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 20:44
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Originally Posted by EXPDES
Having to sack 50 pilots when there is a perfectly good MOU available...🙄
Except the guys that are eligible for it will keep their 787 commands in JQ.

I highly doubt JQ will have to make anyone redundant. At all. Besides, if they did, they’d have to hire you again within a few months (as per the eba) as soon as hiring recommenced. With your old seniority number. So it’d essentially be a paid holiday.

The long term plan always was for the 787s to go to mainline and replace the older 330s for domestic ops. From what I hear. Which could be wrong. Or not. However an all A320/1 fleet makes sense for JQ
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 21:05
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Originally Posted by ScepticalOptomist


Can someone explain how the possible loss of 3 787s equals 50 loss of jobs and a further 50 demotions? How full of BS are these morons?
Because that would be about right, maybe even worse.
When you’re next up in cruise with nothing to do, read your EBA (likely your first time) regarding the bit about seniority and reflect on how many crews (full compliment) per airframe an airline may have....

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Old 16th Dec 2019, 21:07
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Originally Posted by Blueskymine


I highly doubt JQ will have to make anyone redundant. At all. Besides, if they did, they’d have to hire you again within a few months (as per the eba) as soon as hiring recommenced. With your old seniority number. So it’d essentially be a paid holiday.

Oh ok. A “paid holiday”, sounds like something I’ll rely on, thanks Blueskymine.
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