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Old 16th Dec 2019, 08:18
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Originally Posted by A320 Flyer View Post
Now threatening to sack 50 pilots and demote 50 more.....
Public threat?
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 08:24
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Jetstar cuts January flights in response to industrial action

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...533ea1721bc358

Fallout from industrial action at Jetstar could see up to 50 pilots lose their jobs and another 50 demoted due to a reduction in the airline’s Boeing 787-8 fleet.

The low fares carrier has today flagged the possibility of three 787-8s being sold following a network and fleet review in the face of dwindling profits.

The Australian understands that would mean the loss of as many as 50 pilots while another 50 could be redeployed to less senior roles across the network.

It comes after Jetstar warned it would not give in to pilots’ demands for upfront pay rises it says amount to 15 per cent.

The Australian Federation of Air Pilots has denied they are seeking that much and have urged Jetstar to return to the negotiating table.

Jetstar announced on Monday the cancellation of 800 domestic flights in January, equivalent to 10 per cent of their schedule, to provide passengers with certainty in the face of ongoing disruption.

More than 90 services were axed on the weekend due to four-hour stoppages by pilots on Saturday and Sunday and strikes by ground crew, including baggage handlers.

Combined with the reduced services in January, Jetstar estimated it would lose between $20m and $25m in revenue over the summer holiday period.

CEO Gareth Evans said the wage claims being made by the AFAP and the Transport Workers Union were unsustainable.

“There’s no doubt that industrial action is expensive and frustrating but we have to hold the line on costs or it threatens the long term sustainability of our business,” Mr Evans said.

“We apologise to customers whose plans have been caught up in what the unions are doing.”

AFAP executive director Simon Lutton said they were frustrated by Jetstar “continually inventing figures to suit themselves”.

“Is is highly convenient for Jetstar management to claim that two four-hour work stoppages over the weekend will result in flight cancellations in January when no pilot action is planned past this Friday (December 20),” Mr Lutton said.

“Our aim is to reach a fair and reasonable agreement. It is important that Jetstar returns to the bargaining table to reach a resolution.”

TWU national secretary Michael Kaine said they were appalled Jetstar would “pull the plug” on passengers’ holiday plans.

“With the money Jetstar is spending on cancelling flights and upsetting holiday plans it could have solved this issue by now,” Mr Kaine said.

“Our claims are modest. All the average baggage and ramp worker is looking for is at most an extra 90 cents an hour; that means for many an increase of just $19 a week.”

Weakness in the low cost leisure market has been dogging Jetstar since the May federal election and there has been speculation of a reduction in fleet size for some time.

The review undertaken by the airline identified three 787-8s serving loss-making and marginal international routes, and a business case developed to sell the aircraft.

A final decision will be made early next year with capital from the sales to be reinvested in other parts of the Qantas Group.

Jetstar currently operates 11 787-8s and 51 A320s and A321s.

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Old 16th Dec 2019, 09:03
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That article is behind a paywall dood, any chance you could copy and paste?
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 09:07
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Originally Posted by The name is Porter View Post
That article is behind a paywall dood, any chance you could copy and paste?
done... I’ve edited and added the text
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 09:21
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As if they are going to sack 50 pilots lol, god these are kindergarten media releases, they can hardly get enough pilots let alone start sacking them lol, amateur hour in the Jetstar tactics room!
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 09:26
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Fallout from industrial action at Jetstar could see up to 50 pilots lose their jobs and another 50 demoted due to a reduction in the airline’s Boeing 787-8 fleet.

Totally unrelated issue somehow tied together!
More [email protected]#$&%* lies!!!
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 09:39
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 09:41
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Originally Posted by Angle of Attack View Post
As if they are going to sack 50 pilots lol, god these are kindergarten media releases, they can hardly get enough pilots let alone start sacking them lol, amateur hour in the Jetstar tactics room!
Oh really?

I’ll pin my career security & aspirations to your brilliant assertion above will I? No, I think not if you don’t mind.
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 10:09
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Oh really?

I’ll pin my career security & aspirations to your brilliant assertion above will I? No, I think not if you don’t mind.
The gullibility of some
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 10:14
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Best of luck all you J* guys!!
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 10:31
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That is comical genius...
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 10:33
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I was surprised to learn JQ withdrew from the MEL-SIN-MEL route 2 weeks ago.
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 10:56
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I was surprised to learn JQ withdrew from the MEL-SIN-MEL route 2 weeks ago.
With a daily Qantas 380 service probably to many seats.
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 10:57
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I was surprised to learn JQ withdrew from the MEL-SIN-MEL route 2 weeks ago.
Scoot drove them out. Scooter is currently twice daily on the route, JQ was down to a pointless 2 and 3 weekly. They drove them off Perth also.

Connections on the other end probably count. I remember Tiger Singapore said Perth was one it’s best performing routes profit wise. Yet Jetstar said it was one of its poorest performing. They have had issues making much in Asia work for a while now.
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 11:00
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There’s no doubt that industrial action is expensive and frustrating but we have to hold the line on costs or it threatens the long term sustainability of our business,” Mr Evans said.
Spelling error Gareth here I'll fix it for you;

There’s no doubt that industrial action is expensive and frustrating but we have to hold the line on costs or it threatens the long term sustainability of our bonuses,” Mr Evans said.
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 13:35
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Interesting how some laugh at the possible loss of 50 jobs....

Obviously not your job that is on the line otherwise you would not be so flippant about it.
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 13:37
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Originally Posted by A little birdie View Post
Must be only a few days until JQ international is declared ‘terminal decline’!
50 is correct...25 Capt, 25 F.O’s
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 20:19
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50 has a nice ring to it, doesn’t it? A good round number to send a strong message to all.

It’s been used before against pilots:

The Stalag Luft III murders were war crimesperpetrated by members of the Gestapofollowing the "Great Escape" of Allied prisoners of war from the German Air Force prison camp known as Stalag Luft III on March 25, 1944. Of the 76 successful escapees 73 were recaptured, mostly within several days of the breakout, 50 of whom were executed on the personal orders of Adolf Hitler. These summary executions were conducted within a short period of recapture..
Being the type of people/adversaries they are, they weren’t going to take any action lying down. Stay calm and good luck.
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 20:24
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Originally Posted by Industrie View Post


50 is correct...25 Capt, 25 F.O’s
Can someone explain how the possible loss of 3 787s equals 50 loss of jobs and a further 50 demotions? How full of BS are these morons?
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 20:43
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I remember Tiger Singapore said Perth was one it’s best performing routes profit wise. Yet Jetstar said it was one of its poorest performing. They have had issues making much in Asia work for a while now.
The restructure cicra 2009 cost Qantas a lot of money. A token resident "majority" owner in Singapore, yet all invoices lead to Coward Street.

Over a decade of no tangible profit, other than some window dressing leases to cover substantive operating losses.
Grand strategy right there.
The Singaporeans quite rightly laughed them out of the place.
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