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Old 20th Nov 2019, 21:35
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Originally Posted by Chief galah
Can anyone explain the logic behind having a taxiway system west of the proposed runway?
That is for the west terminal, see the airport development plan on the Tullamarine airport Web site, page 115. The hint is that the proposed railway is extended to there.

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Old 21st Nov 2019, 00:14
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High winds today have reduced ops to 16/34 and likely to be that way for most of the day. Some flights cancelled as a result.
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Old 21st Nov 2019, 04:38
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Originally Posted by MELKBQF
1975 Melway showing the original second nth/sth runway proposal located where the factories and warehouses have been built.

https://digitised-collections.unimel...12&isAllowed=y

If only all those damn factories weren't there.......
In my 'somewhat later' Melways, the proposed parallel 16/34 was over to the west about where the current control tower is.
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Old 21st Nov 2019, 23:25
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Originally Posted by GA Driver
If only all those damn factories weren't there.......
In my 'somewhat later' Melways, the proposed parallel 16/34 was over to the west about where the current control tower is.
Yes, and have been for years. I forgot all about that runway to the east.
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Old 22nd Nov 2019, 02:12
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Slightly OT but does anyone know the reason for extending V north of 27/09 up to C?

​​​​If 16 is in use no one is exiting at C and heading southbound down A so no conflict there, if 34 is in use then no one is going northbound on A so no conflict there either.

The only benefits I can think of are:
1. Makes it easier for the tugs to go up and down A
2. Reduces the impact of works on that part of A

Neither of which seem significant enough to me to really justify it.
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Old 22nd Nov 2019, 05:56
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The CFMEU will decide if there will be another runway built and where it may go. Probably going to have to wait until they have drained every last available dollar from rail crossings and metro tunnels first though. Ten years at least.
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Old 22nd Nov 2019, 07:41
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Originally Posted by JustJoinedToSearch
Slightly OT but does anyone know the reason for extending V north of 27/09 up to C?

​​​​If 16 is in use no one is exiting at C and heading southbound down A so no conflict there, if 34 is in use then no one is going northbound on A so no conflict there either.

The only benefits I can think of are:
1. Makes it easier for the tugs to go up and down A
2. Reduces the impact of works on that part of A

Neither of which seem significant enough to me to really justify it.
Twy A near Twy E will be closing temporarily as part of the Twy E re-alignment & Twy Z project, so Twy V is being extended to ensure aircraft can taxi north of Rwy 27 to depart Rwy 16 without having to backtrack Rwy 16 whilst Twy A is closed.
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Old 28th Oct 2022, 01:52
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Hopefully Melbourne-Tullamarine gets its 3rd runway and also an airport train.

long talked about, never delivered.

North-South orientation surely makes more sense.

If Melbourne authorities were so concerned about noise abatement, Melbourne-Avalon would have been a great option to expand.
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Old 28th Oct 2022, 02:34
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Hopefully they build a new parallel runway and close any crossing runway.

The last thing we need is another SYD where if the wind get above 20 knots they close a majority of the airport. Having no crossing runway would eliminate the need for any closures and keep everything moving.
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Old 28th Oct 2022, 02:43
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Proposal is for ILS on R34L and R and consequent lowering of airspace over the bay from LL4500 to LL2500 to facilitate.
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Old 28th Oct 2022, 04:45
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I really wish they would just get on with it. And perhaps be a bit more ambitious with timeframes. They said it ‘could’ be ready by 2027, but they said more like 28 or 29. See you mid next decade.

The whole train thing is just embarrassing. A decade or two talking about it. Then a decade to build the train line. Only in Oz.
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Old 28th Oct 2022, 05:16
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Originally Posted by aussieflyboy
Hopefully they build a new parallel runway and close any crossing runway.

The last thing we need is another SYD where if the wind get above 20 knots they close a majority of the airport. Having no crossing runway would eliminate the need for any closures and keep everything moving.
That would kinda put an end to LAHSO and 09/16 simultaneous operations on those calm sunny days we get in summer.

No, another parallel runway (34L/16R) is about the only thing that makes sense and even then, probably only when the new Terminal is built - otherwise we'd get another "SYD 3rd runway" situation and nobody down here wants that..
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Old 28th Oct 2022, 05:24
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Originally Posted by Roller Merlin
Proposal is for ILS on R34L and R and consequent lowering of airspace over the bay from LL4500 to LL2500 to facilitate.
Yeah it sucks - but given that the VFR Coastal Route is already down to 2000, I don't think too many folks will have a problem with that.
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Old 28th Oct 2022, 12:10
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I really wish they would just get on with it. And perhaps be a bit more ambitious with timeframes. They said it ‘could’ be ready by 2027, but they said more like 28 or 29. See you mid next decade.

The whole train thing is just embarrassing. A decade or two talking about it. Then a decade to build the train line. Only in Oz.
So, on the one hand you wish they'd get on with it, but you correctly identify that Australia is an infrastructure **** hole. The world has fast trains, Australia has pieces of **** that look awesome on the outside but are as fast as an uber milking a fare in peaktime.

Australia = showbags. Big, fat and full of ****.
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Old 28th Oct 2022, 23:40
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Originally Posted by tossbag
So, on the one hand you wish they'd get on with it, but you correctly identify that Australia is an infrastructure **** hole. The world has fast trains, Australia has pieces of **** that look awesome on the outside but are as fast as an uber milking a fare in peaktime.

Australia = showbags. Big, fat and full of ****.
Correct on rail. Vline still use 1980 built carriages and loco’s on its network. Melbourne to Geelong should be fast rail or ‘faster’ rail, 40 mins tops. We are still stuck in the 80s it seems.
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