Tiger EBA approved
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To correct your 'information'. The last QF pay rise for the 737 was 1 Mar 18 and if there is a 3% increase the 2019 rates for Year 4 will be $313 per hour
At 90 hours a month (945 pa) Tiger will average $292 per hour vs QF’s 73 $401 per hour for Year4 2019 figures.
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The last QF737 pay rise occurred on 1/9/17. Assuming backdated 3% pay rises the year 4 Capt rate would be $322.58/hour from this September.
The company line is that pay rises will be 3% + efficiency gains
Jeppesen claim savings in the range up to 15% in crew costs using the Jeppesen crew pairing optimiser.
Other claims made by Jeppesen are "retiming" (roster changes mid duty ?), "more profit" and "take fatigue risk into account during optimization for optimum trade-offs with other KPI's". We all know what this means.
I wouldn't be surprised if Jetstar are expecting at least a 10% reduction in crewing costs or more. Isn't this the efficiency gains they want ?
The fact that that pilots will be more efficient, whether it was a trade off made during negotiations or not, is still an efficiency gain.
If pilots will be working harder, more efficiently, more time away from home, shorter rest periods, more dead heading, more roster disruptions, then pilots should expect an appropriate increase in pay to reflect this hard work.
Isn't this just part of their plan or expectation, to just burn pilots out after 5 years. This shows how much they really care about pilots health, wellbeing and quality of life.
https://ww2.jeppesen.com/airline-cre...-crew-pairing/
http://ww1.jeppesen.com/documents/av...wRostering.pdf
https://ww2.jeppesen.com/wp-content/...fact-sheet.pdf
http://ww1.jeppesen.com/documents/av...iring_v9.1.pdf
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Yes, we are about to turn into an airline of ‘trips’. Every time you go to work it will be for a tour of duty of between 2 and 5 days. Sad really as one of the only Jetstar advantages over other airline was being a home most of the time.
I hope that I am wrong as well, but the initial documents floating around don’t look positive. Couple that with the fact that Jetstar NZ gained a load of pilots from Air Nelson when they introduced the ‘optimiser’ leading to multiple day trips and I would say the writing is on the wall.
Oh ok basically they’ll own you for 5 days expect an early start day 1 and late finish last day. Suggest you look at recent Virgin eba as this was a massive issue.
You’ll also see multiple roster changes within the trip while they time balance you out of overtime (this will be vehemently denied but again check amendment to virgin eba).
Your last day won’t go anywhere near your home base to prevent you from hopping off due sick or fatigue.
These are some of the tasty gems coming your way.
You’ll also see multiple roster changes within the trip while they time balance you out of overtime (this will be vehemently denied but again check amendment to virgin eba).
Your last day won’t go anywhere near your home base to prevent you from hopping off due sick or fatigue.
These are some of the tasty gems coming your way.
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Why would they go down the trip route. LCC = Point to Point to keep costs down. That just balloons costs. AirAsia/Scoot/Tiger they barely touch that sort of practice otherwise fares need to go up. They have twice the amount of bases than Virgin and half the fleet which is why it’s not needed.
Unless they are thinking of closing bases again?
Unless they are thinking of closing bases again?
Oh ok basically they’ll own you for 5 days expect an early start day 1 and late finish last day. Suggest you look at recent Virgin eba as this was a massive issue.
You’ll also see multiple roster changes within the trip while they time balance you out of overtime (this will be vehemently denied but again check amendment to virgin eba).
Your last day won’t go anywhere near your home base to prevent you from hopping off due sick or fatigue.
These are some of the tasty gems coming your way.
You’ll also see multiple roster changes within the trip while they time balance you out of overtime (this will be vehemently denied but again check amendment to virgin eba).
Your last day won’t go anywhere near your home base to prevent you from hopping off due sick or fatigue.
These are some of the tasty gems coming your way.
sounds lovely
That’s what I thought wheels down.
In an ideal world a rostering system would allow those that want trips to get them vs day trips vice versa. Same for early vs lates. Any promise of this should be ignored.
In an ideal world a rostering system would allow those that want trips to get them vs day trips vice versa. Same for early vs lates. Any promise of this should be ignored.
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Tigers main issue is they have always had no long term direction. Successive useless CEO's and useless Chief Pilots as well as multiple other higher useless ego tripping management changes they will always be a rudderless ship, why VA bought them is beyond belief!
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Useless Chief Pilots after Ken left you mean..
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Oh ok basically they’ll own you for 5 days expect an . Suggest you look at recent Virgin eba as this was a massive issue.
You’ll also see multiple roster changes within the trip while they time balance you out of overtime (this will be vehemently denied but again check amendment to virgin eba).
Your last day won’t go anywhere near your home base to prevent you from hopping off due sick or fatigue.
These are some of the tasty gems coming your way.
You’ll also see multiple roster changes within the trip while they time balance you out of overtime (this will be vehemently denied but again check amendment to virgin eba).
Your last day won’t go anywhere near your home base to prevent you from hopping off due sick or fatigue.
These are some of the tasty gems coming your way.
early start day 1 and late finish last day - This is pretty much standard practice & has been in the RCGM for years. Late to earlies is the real no-no.
multiple roster changes within the trip while they time balance you out of overtime - I don't doubt that it's in the EBA but you've gotta ask 'Who will be doing this?' Once published, the roster belongs to Crewing & there's one person on shift dealing with everything. I just don't see who will have time to pull things apart for this specific reason. Also, the Unions are told of all changes post publish.
Your last day won’t go anywhere near your home base to prevent you from hopping off due sick or fatigue - Geneva does not have this capability & the Rosterers won't have the time or the sense to be so clever, they'll just be frantically covering trips on the last day before publish!
I'd be more concerned about how 'flexible' the 'fixed' rosters are...