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Old 5th Apr 2019, 04:54
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Hope Boeing have plenty of clean sheets of paper, you can only milk a cow for so long!
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Old 5th Apr 2019, 05:52
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Originally Posted by thec172man View Post
true, it'd be interesting to see how this pans out for Boeing and the 737 MAX program, and whether it'd be an extra incentive for QF to switch to the 320/1 NEO, with some of its advantages in the container loading, and future engine upgrade capabilities.
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Purely cheapest Capex for this mob. Then they can make efficiency gain
bonuses all-round!
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Old 5th Apr 2019, 09:35
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Iíd expect ULR order to go with Airbus and part of the agreement would be deferring half the current NEO order to the back half of this decade.

Jetstar Affiliates in other regions seem to be going there own ways in securing aircraft.

Half the fleet doesnít need replacing. On the other hand the 20 year old 321 shitboxes need to be sent to the graveyard!
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Old 6th Apr 2019, 01:54
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Originally Posted by wheels_down View Post
Half the fleet doesnít need replacing. On the other hand the 20 year old 321 shitboxes need to be sent to the graveyard!
...or Network!
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Old 6th Apr 2019, 07:26
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...or Network!
aaahhhhhh, LeCarrot
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Old 6th Apr 2019, 08:49
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Why not just give Network all the new NEOís and then let them operate them and get rid of the 737 fleet. Will save money because the crew are more productive for less
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Old 6th Apr 2019, 08:56
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Yawn. Fair Work Act. Yawn
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Old 6th Apr 2019, 09:04
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Originally Posted by morno View Post
Why not just give Network all the new NEOís and then let them operate them and get rid of the 737 fleet. Will save money because the crew are more productive for less
why not get rid of jetstar and let network operate that as well! In fact, why not get rid of everything Australian and just import everything! Jobs, products, who cares!
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Old 6th Apr 2019, 09:22
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Unfortunately the Network growth will be at the expense of mainline , starting in Perth .
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why not get rid of jetstar and let network operate that as well! In fact, why not get rid of everything Australian and just import everything! Jobs, products, who cares!
Thatís a great idea!
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Old 7th Apr 2019, 04:19
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Originally Posted by Scooter Rassmussin View Post
Unfortunately the Network growth will be at the expense of mainline , starting in Perth .
Unlikely, Network can barely keep crews for the aircraft it has now, and those F100ís are getting long in the tooth. Any extra 320ís headed there will be for F100 replacement as consolidation.

This theory that Network will be flooded with 320ís and completely replace SH is ludicrous.
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Old 7th Apr 2019, 10:32
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Unlikely, Network can barely keep crews for the aircraft it has now, and those F100ís are getting long in the tooth. Any extra 320ís headed there will be for F100 replacement as consolidation.

This theory that Network will be flooded with 320ís and completely replace SH is ludicrous.
suplus crews on both fleets at the moment. Network can definitely absorb more frames and flying right now.
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Old 7th Apr 2019, 11:48
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suplus crews on both fleets at the moment. Network can definitely absorb more frames and flying right now.
Thinking of the long run however. A lot of current crew will transfer to mainline, and 320 time in the logbook will open up a world of contract opportunities to others. Donít see it as much of a viable aspect far beyond their current operations
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Old 7th Apr 2019, 13:32
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Thinking of the long run however. A lot of current crew will transfer to mainline, and 320 time in the logbook will open up a world of contract opportunities to others. Donít see it as much of a viable aspect far beyond their current operations
A lot of the captain ranks already have Airbus time and for most command on other types of jets. I canít see many if any chasing contract work overseas. Most people at network are there because they want to live in Perth. As for mainline. A few are leaving but their departure is staggered. This wonít have any effect on crewing numbers.
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Old 8th Apr 2019, 01:38
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Originally Posted by dr dre View Post


Unlikely, Network can barely keep crews for the aircraft it has now, and those F100ís are getting long in the tooth. Any extra 320ís headed there will be for F100 replacement as consolidation.

This theory that Network will be flooded with 320ís and completely replace SH is ludicrous.
The F100s will still be the go-to for most new customers for Network on the charter side, and the intrastate RPT work. Only a few sites (mostly FMG) take the A320s, and the weekend work to Broome is just utilising time that they would otherwise be on the ground in Perth, and a handy way of keeping the state government away from regulating the intrastate jet routes.
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Old 4th Oct 2021, 22:21
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Qantas launches contest to replace small jets

SYDNEY/BOSTON, Oct 3 (Reuters) - Qantas Airways (QAN.AX) is in talks with several planemakers over plans to renew its main narrowbody and regional airliner fleets and is expected to formalise the negotiations with a tender announcement within days, industry sources said.

The Australian carrier is studying the Airbus (AIR.PA) A220 and Brazilian Embraer's (EMBR3.SA) E2 to replace a regional fleet of 20 Boeing 717s and 18 Fokker 100s, they added.

Boeing's 737 MAX 7, the smallest member of its best-selling single-aisle family, is also seen as a contender.

In the busiest part of the market, Airbus and Boeing (BA.N) are competing head to head as Qantas also seeks to replace Boeing 737-800s, the oldest of which are nearly 20 years old.

The combined moves could lead to staggered purchases of as many as 100 jets including options, the sources said.

In Boston, where airline executives were gathering for an industry meeting, Qantas Chief Executive Alan Joyce declined to comment ahead of a virtual news briefing scheduled for Monday. Planemakers Airbus, Boeing and Embraer also declined to comment.

Talks over the influential airline's business have been under way for months, but Qantas is expected to set out its requirements publicly within days as it and other airlines eye potential bargains for jets in the wake of the COVID-19 crisis.

"We've said for some time that the renewal of our domestic narrowbody fleet is on our agenda," a Qantas spokesperson said.

"It's a long-term proposition and when we have any material updates to provide, we will.”

Qantas had initially planned to place an order in 2020 but that was delayed by the pandemic. Chief Financial Officer Vanessa Hudson said in February a tender would be launched this year.

Qantas budget arm Jetstar has 109 A320neo family planes on order, but the start of deliveries has been postponed until at least July 2022 due to the impact of the pandemic.

In a separate contest dubbed 'Project Sunrise,' Qantas selected Airbus over Boeing for jets capable of staging the world's longest commercial flights from Sydney to London, but the plans were delayed by the pandemic.

Joyce said in August that order for A350-family jets would not be revisited until international borders reopened.

Australia said on Friday it would begin a staged opening of international borders next month but only vaccinated citizens and permanent residents would be included and they would be required to quarantine at home for seven days on arrival.

The country has not set a date for opening borders to foreigners.

https://www.reuters.com/business/aer...es-2021-10-03/
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Old 4th Oct 2021, 23:36
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Qantas confirms the tender for new mainline and regional jets, deliveries across 2023-2034: https://www.executivetraveller.com/n...stic-jet-fleet
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Old 5th Oct 2021, 00:23
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A350 + A320NEO + A220.
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Old 5th Oct 2021, 00:58
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Originally Posted by MelbourneFlyer View Post
Qantas confirms the tender for new mainline and regional jets, deliveries across 2023-2034: https://www.executivetraveller.com/n...stic-jet-fleet
Deliveries planned until 2034, meaning theyíll probably keep the newest 738s in service til the end of their service life, may be a consideration for the MAX as a mixed MAX/NG fleet is easier to handle than a mixed 320/NG fleet.

In any case the choice of competitors isnít surprising, no one expected the Sukhoi Superjet 100 to be in the running did they?
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Old 5th Oct 2021, 03:10
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In any case the choice of competitors isnít surprising, no one expected the Sukhoi Superjet 100 to be in the running did they?
what about a surprise bid from China with ARJ21s and CR919s!

(tongue firmly in cheek)
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