JETCONNECT CONDITIONS

[Chinook]

Folks,

Got a call today from JC asking me to head to AKL for interview, FO position. Anyone got current pay and conditions ? Please share, there is a lot of old info available. Some up to date intel would be much appreciated.

​​​​​​​Cheers

[rogeramjet]

Chinook

From what I've been told by a friend who is on the ground course now with JC, 130K + when CTL, all under Qantas AOC, possible options to move to mainline as you now have a senority amongst the group.

[virgindriver]

Captains earn around $260k kiwi total and the tax rate is about 30%?

Time to command is a lot quicker than in Oz too and they don’t work too hard.

[Gate_15L]

Originally Posted by virgindriver

Captains earn around $260k kiwi total and the tax rate is about 30%?

Time to command is a lot quicker than in Oz too and they don’t work too hard.

i very much doubt that a JC captain is on $260 k total.
More like $170-190 k total.

The top tax rate is 33%, no super.

[wantobe]

1st year F/O pay is 104k

Command 1st year is 190k


new contract, 10 days off in 28.


Inzed is misinformed.

[ElZilcho]

-edit- Wantobe above beat me to it and has new contract figures.

JC captains used to be paid around $160k in year one then $170k in years 2+ along with a $20-$25k retention bonus paid annually on your anniversary - if you left prior to that date, you got nothing.

FO’s were about $90k Year 1 and $100k Years 2+ then a $10-$15k retention bonus.

However, I believe they finally (after years of failed negotiations) ratified a new contract (which I don’t have) so make sure any info you get applies to the new one.

All of the JC Aircraft (which they didn’t own anyway) have been moved from ZK to VH regos giving QF more flexibility and reduced costs. This makes JC even more of a “crewing supplier” as they no longer have a fleet of specific Aircraft to crew. They could provide 50 Pilots or 500 at the whim of QF. Is this one more nail in the coffin for the future of JC or a step closer to integration with Mainline similar to VANZ went through with Virgin?

Crystal ball stuff, but if it were me, I’d consider J* a safer option long term. But if you want a quick Command to take overseas then JC is probably quicker. I believe J* NZ has been crewed with AUS Captains lately rather than upgrading local FO’s.

[virgindriver]

Originally Posted by Gate_15L

i very much doubt that a JC captain is on $260 k total.
More like $170-190 k total.

The top tax rate is 33%, no super.

You obviously have no real idea what the pay is then and certainly don’t work there.

[rogeramjet]

I don't work there either, but a friend of mine has just started his ground course with JC and he's told me the starting rate is 130k+? Because of the new contract and being under QF AoC..

Only relaying what I've been told. Don't shoot lol

[wantobe]

Anyone who currently works there have any idea of what the morale is like within the staff? Do you feel you're in secure employment ?

[Mafortion]

Originally Posted by rogeramjet

Chinook

From what I've been told by a friend who is on the ground course now with JC, 130K + when CTL, all under Qantas AOC, possible options to move to mainline as you now have a senority amongst the group.

Ahh... no. A Group list is something that AIPA has talked about, but the company is not interested in.

[Low Pass]

PM me and I’ll send you the contract. I see it as the worst conditions of JC,VANZ & JQnz

[Low Pass]

No protection of the Tasman flying and no seniority number with mainline.

[Chinook]

Thank you folks, much appreciated. Seems a strange state of affairs when the HR people won’t share details of employment conditions with interviewees till AFTER hiring.

Watching and shooting.

[Gate_15L]

Originally Posted by virgindriver

You obviously have no real idea what the pay is then and certainly don’t work there.

Jetconnect (NZD)
B737-800
Captain

From 20 Aug 18 to 14 Apr 19: Y1 $175,520 Y2 $185,524 Y3 $189,744
From 15 Apr 19 to 12 Apr 20: Y1 $179,908 Y2 $190,162 Y3 $194,487
From 13 Apr 20 to 11 Apr 21: Y1 $184,406 Y2 $194,916 Y3 $199,349

First Officers

From 20 Aug 18 to 14 Apr 19: Y1 $100,378 Y2 $111,314 Y3 $113,847
From 15 Apr 19 to 12 Apr 20: Y1 $102,887 Y2 $114,097 Y3 $116,693
From 13 Apr 20 to 11 Apr 21: Y1 $105,459 Y2 $116,949 Y3$119,610


You want to eat those words....

[rogeramjet]

Originally Posted by Mafortion

Ahh... no. A Group list is something that AIPA has talked about, but the company is not interested in.

Ahh I see. My apologies. I only really have second-hand info coming in from a friend whos trying to convince me to apply. Still seems like a great stepping stone coming from a light turboprop and getting into a Jet? In his situation as well as mine..

[wantobe]

Originally Posted by Low Pass

PM me and I’ll send you the contract. I see it as the worst conditions of JC,VANZ & JQnz

Having read all 3 contracts for VANZ, Jetstar NZ, and Jetconnect, I'm curious to know why you think it's the worst deal.

In fact I think the new contract is better in some respects than the others.

[who_cares]

Originally Posted by Gate_15L

Jetconnect (NZD)
B737-800
Captain

From 20 Aug 18 to 14 Apr 19: Y1 $175,520 Y2 $185,524 Y3 $189,744
From 15 Apr 19 to 12 Apr 20: Y1 $179,908 Y2 $190,162 Y3 $194,487
From 13 Apr 20 to 11 Apr 21: Y1 $184,406 Y2 $194,916 Y3 $199,349

First Officers

From 20 Aug 18 to 14 Apr 19: Y1 $100,378 Y2 $111,314 Y3 $113,847
From 15 Apr 19 to 12 Apr 20: Y1 $102,887 Y2 $114,097 Y3 $116,693
From 13 Apr 20 to 11 Apr 21: Y1 $105,459 Y2 $116,949 Y3$119,610


You want to eat those words....

I’m a line Capt, my ytd last payslip $241k, what you posted just shows base pay.

[tigerschmidt]

As populations increase ,ruling elite will require you to work harder for less , ie more people to compete for dwindling jobs.

if you look at the US model many pilots need a second job, Walmart,Taxis ect to make enough to get by
If it’s $ that’s going to make you happy then you might need to look at scamming careers.
If you really like flying enjoy it and don’t worry about the coin, life’s too short!

[josephfeatherweight]

if you look at the US model many pilots need a second job, Walmart,Taxis ect to make enough to get by

That may have been the case a few years ago, but not sure that is the current state of affairs?
My understanding was that wages and conditions in the US (incl regionals) was pretty good at the moment!

[CurtainTwitcher]

That may have been the case a few years ago, but not sure that is the current state of affairs?

One leads to the other! See Michael Moore: Pilots on food stamps from 2010,aspiring pilots trained for something else, leading to the predictable regional shortage and rising pay in the US.


Edit: PBS also did a more significant documentary on the US regional pilot issues in 2010: Flying Cheap Maybe it's time we take a hard look at the risks that may go with cheap flying...? Transcript

Unfortunately I can't embed the video directly into the post, so you will have to visit the linked PBS page to view.