Another Kiwi Turnback
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Another Kiwi Turnback
In light of the China events last week it seems our Kiwi friends run into more trouble.
As it was approaching Iran, they would not permit the A321 to overfly so it’s gone back to Germany.
Luckily had had the fuel to return, diverting into Iran would most likely result in nice new fresh airbus parts for our Iranian aviators!
As it was approaching Iran, they would not permit the A321 to overfly so it’s gone back to Germany.
Luckily had had the fuel to return, diverting into Iran would most likely result in nice new fresh airbus parts for our Iranian aviators!
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Originally Posted by wheels_down
In light of the China events last week it seems our Kiwi friends run into more trouble.
As it was approaching Iran, they would not permit the A321 to overfly so it’s gone back to Germany.
Luckily had had the fuel to return, diverting into Iran would most likely result in nice new fresh airbus parts for our Iranian aviators!
As it was approaching Iran, they would not permit the A321 to overfly so it’s gone back to Germany.
Luckily had had the fuel to return, diverting into Iran would most likely result in nice new fresh airbus parts for our Iranian aviators!
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No Ken, but it might not be the first time that something got lost in translation at the receiving county's end. Correctly submitted paperwork can acquire errors. From first hand experience, the aircraft type was changed (at their end, the submitted paperwork was correct) and I had overflight clearance denied in flight despite having correct clearance numbers to hand. Fortunately it was easy to fly around and had the gas...
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Securing the appropriate overflight clearances and then routeing/flight planning/operating in accordance with those clearances is not exactly rocket science!
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Originally Posted by Okihara
For the less initiated amongst us, can anyone shed light on what happened with Air NZ and China?
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Originally Posted by Chris2303
I rather suspect it was more China flexing it's muscles than a paper work error. Probably under normal circumstances the paper work could have been easily rectified without any need for a turn back. China's not happy with any of the Five Eyes group of countries (banning Huawei from 5G projects) and saw an opportunity to make a point.
Air New Zealand had to take it on the chin, as saying anything different was likely to cause more pain.
As for the refusal by Iran for an overflight permission, once again possibly politics at play. Haven't we all (most of the western world) agreed to sanctions on Iran? Perhaps they were getting one back.
After all one of the major shareholders in Air New Zealand is the New Zealand government.. A hit at Air New Zealand might be seen as a hit at the New Zealand government.
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It was a paperwork error.
China requires every aircraft operating to Chinese airports to be pre-registered with the authorities.
This aircraft wasn't and hadn't - up until last week - operated to China, being a config developed for the N. American market.
Someone dropped the ball.
China requires every aircraft operating to Chinese airports to be pre-registered with the authorities.
This aircraft wasn't and hadn't - up until last week - operated to China, being a config developed for the N. American market.
Someone dropped the ball.
