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Old 18th Feb 2019, 00:16
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From the Boeing images website:

Three views of Boeing's C-5 proposal
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 01:54
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6 years after Richard Pearce and the Wright Brothers first flew!
i assume that is in chronological order and a nod to the kiwis
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 02:17
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QATAR has just listed 10 x A380's as being for sale, with deliveries commencing in 2024
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 02:40
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The link between C5 and B747 was the engines (USAF underwrote development of TF39, which became CF6, and the P&W JT9D)
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 12:38
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Originally Posted by tail wheel View Post
More importantly, perhaps Airbus should have been watching Boeing research into the market for larger capacity, longer range aircraft?Finally Boeing built the 747-8 largely from the 747-400 base plus existing Boeing technology and has sold 130 at December 2018, whilst the Airbus A380 was a €25 billion new technology project, 234 currently sold and in service and it appears production will cease in the very near future.

Interestingly of the 130 B747-8 delivered so far, 84 (64.6%) were 747-8F freighters. Boeing 747-8 base price $403.6M for 410 pax, three class seating, versus US$445.6M for the A380, typically 555 pax, three class seating.

I wonder whether surplus A380s may eventually turn up in cargo configuration, or whether that is even possible.

The A380 is a great aircraft, hope they survive into the future.
A more important question is though, how are they going to get OQA into Longreach when the time comes, to park next to the L1049, B707-138 and 747-238B ???
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 20:32
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Was the 747 ever offered up as an alternative to the C5A or is it pure mythology from start to finish?
Wide Body - the making of the Boeing 747 by Clive Irving is a must read for anyone with any Boeing interest. It's a 747 history but explains a LOT about the company and it's ethos.

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And yes, it was Jaun Trippe that drove the project. Including the lamentable decision to have a passenger lounge upstairs and not a far more sensible crew rest/lounge area!
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 21:18
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AerialPerspective. Why do you think it will be a challenge to get OQA into Longreach ?
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Old 19th Feb 2019, 08:01
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AerialPerspective. Why do you think it will be a challenge to get OQA into Longreach ?
There will be no residual value on the A380’s so parking OQA in Longreach makes a lot of sense.
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Old 20th Feb 2019, 00:12
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Troppo:

I assume that is in chronological order and a nod to the kiwis
I believe that is at least in chronological order......

A more important question is though, how are they going to get OQA into Longreach when the time comes, to park next to the L1049, B707-138 and 747-238B
You forgot the DC3 and Catalina? If they park an A380 at Longreach tarmac side real estate will be at a premium, if there is any left!

I was there the day the B747 landed. The landing was a breeze but it took around an hour to turn the aircraft around due to the narrow runway and turn node. Will be even harder with an A380.........

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Old 20th Feb 2019, 03:51
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As Connie Kalitta says of a different model but same today... " When you park the last Airbus (A380 in this case ) in the desert we'll come pick the crew up in the 1970s DC8-70F or the B747F " All still flying hahahah funny dude but true.
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Old 20th Feb 2019, 06:08
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Having done plenty (too much) long haul in my time, much of it just 2 pilot, the 8,400nm range of the modern twins is to me quite mind boggling. I'm wondering for you QF guys on the 787 doing limited routes, is going to work a real drag to be dreaded?? Or is money and lifestyle enough to overcome that? Although I guess we are all different and one man's opinion may not reflect another's. I for one now earn less than I have in the last 20 years, but I'm a very very happy little fruit bat. The flying I do now is fantastic and I've rediscovered the love of flying. Is the constant increase in the range of these sort of aircraft going to snuff out the desire for a nice jet job?
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Old 20th Feb 2019, 08:15
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One of the early A380s has already been retired to the Musée de l'air in Paris.




Airbus A380 F-WWDD (MSN 004) is the first of its type to be preserved. The aircraft arrived at Le Bourget on 14 February 2017.
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Old 20th Feb 2019, 08:51
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I was there the day the B747 landed. The landing was a breeze but it took around an hour to turn the aircraft around due to the narrow runway and turn node. Will be even harder with an A380.........
They didn’t have to turn it around, but in doing so, it allowed the aircraft to taxi back to the apron under its own steam to enhance the moment.
It would have been much easier and quicker just to push it back from where it stopped!



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Old 20th Feb 2019, 10:29
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Originally Posted by tdracer View Post
Boeing made a serious proposal for what became the C5A, but it lost out to the Lockheed proposal. .
td, thanks, your perspective is always appreciated. It would be great to have you tell us about your experience with this vehicle:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_TD2
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Old 21st Feb 2019, 03:29
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td, thanks, your perspective is always appreciated. It would be great to have you tell us about your experience with this vehicle:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_TD2
Sorry, I never raced bikes - only stuff with four wheels. People who race motorbikes are crazy - at least crazier than me.
Had a friend who raced bikes - we used to compare notes about speed at various points on some of the tracks we both ran (short story, he was faster in a straight line, but I was quicker in the twisty bits). He was killed riding his street bike back to the Puget Sound after racing in Spokane
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Old 21st Feb 2019, 10:09
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Originally Posted by tdracer View Post
Sorry, I never raced bikes - only stuff with four wheels. People who race motorbikes are crazy - at least crazier than me.
Had a friend who raced bikes - we used to compare notes about speed at various points on some of the tracks we both ran (short story, he was faster in a straight line, but I was quicker in the twisty bits). He was killed riding his street bike back to the Puget Sound after racing in Spokane
I wrongly presumed from your username that you had in your younger days raced Yamaha TD racing bikes. I had some experience with the TA and TZ bikes. The latter was unbelievable. I was never crazy enough to be competitive. Sorry about your friend, I lost a lot of friends that way too, and sorry for the thread drift.
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