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Old 12th Feb 2019, 08:47
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CASA's Aviation Safety Advisory Panel

Can someone please explain to me where in the following group of luminaries the General Aviation sector is represented?

The Aviation Safety Advisory Panel (ASAP) is the primary advisory body through which CASA directs its engagement with industry and seeks input on current and future regulatory and associated policy approaches.The ASAP provides CASA's CEO and Director of Aviation Safety with informed, objective high-level advice from the aviation community on current, emerging and potential issues that have, or may have, significant implications for aviation safety and the way CASA performs its functions.
One might ask why we have a CASA Board?

Professor Pat Murray, University of Southern Queensland is the independent Chair of the ASAP.

The current members of the ASAP are:
  • Mr Rob Sharp
  • Mr John Gissing
  • Ms Caroline Wilkie
  • Mr Greg Russell
  • Mr Jim Davis
  • Mr Michael Monck
The Group Manager, Aviation Group and Group Manager, Stakeholder Engagement Group will represent CASA.
So we have the following:
  • Professor Pat Murray - "Independent" chair but also heads up a major Sim center in Brisbane;
  • Mr Rob Sharp - Group Executive, Virgin Australia
  • Mr John Gissing - Group Executive at Qantas
  • Ms Caroline Wilkie - CEO at the Australian Airports Assoc
  • Mr Greg Russell - Former CEO of Airservices Australia
  • Mr Jim Davis - Director and MD of the Rex Group and Chari of the RAAA
  • Mr Michael Monck - Chair of RAAus

Can anyone here see where the small business sector of Aviation - the MROs and the General Aviation businesses - are represented on the ASAP?
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 11:12
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I would think it fair to say that there are no names on that list that represent current industry expertise.

It is a great list if what you are looking for is the corporate line, but not so great if you want real coalface information.
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HAHAHAHAHA no conflict there... No wonder there are only one or two of everything in Australia. Don't you think you muppets have a non independent Government authority. Imagine a third airline trying to get going. Board says "OH surely there not compliant like us "

TOOOO Funny but great to watch. The Socialist Island in the South West Pacific at its best.
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Do they still have the Flying Training Panel? Used to have at least once voice from GA, from memory was a very well regarded CFI from up North.
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There are a handful of long term GA people around who would represent the GA sector very well. Most of the people on the panel represent to the top end of town except for RAAus. Looks politically correct for those in Canberra, however it's realistically dysfunctional as for as GA goes....

What happened to the Flying Training Panel and who was on it?
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 23:33
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Flying Training Panel

Sally Scott, John Douglas, Michael Apps, Kevin McMurtrie, Neil Hyland, Matthew Anderson

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I would think it fair to say that there are no names on that list that represent current industry expertise.

I suggest that Jim Davis has sufficient runs on the board - GA, Airline flying, and engineering to be of some valid use as a coal face Industry voice.
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Jim Davis has sufficient runs on the board - GA, Airline flying, and engineering to be of some valid use as a coal face Industry voice.
Really?
He also has a massive conflict of interest. Rex Group don't care if there is no GA - Regional people will have to fly REX instead of GA. They don't care if there is no GA - they have built their own flight training college. In fact, the pushing of GA training into RAAus and GA Charter into oblivion both directly financially benefit REX Group.
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He also has a massive conflict of interest.

Perhaps, but the potential for conflict does not always, or necessarily, result in conflict or inappropriate actions. Quite some years since he and I have rubbed shoulders (and we go back to the early 70s) but I have to say that I would be very disappointed to find that his integrity doesn't permit the potential for conflict to be managed appropriately.
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