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Old 11th Feb 2019, 22:21
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Virgin Australia 737 Lie-Flat Business Class Se

Due to be launched late-2018, where are the much talked about lie-flat business class seats for the trans continental 737s, now that the A330s are almost exclusively being used on the HKG rotations?

https://www.ausbt.com.au/lie-flat-bu...-here-they-are

Is it to be assumed that the 737-MAX8 will come with them installed?

What about the Pacific Island and Trans Tasman routes? Specifically on the Tasman, Qantas and Air New Zealand both offer lie-flat business class on these routes with wide body aircraft.

Virgin MUST be losing their market share on these routes (Trans Tasman & Continental) with better offerings by competitors.

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Old 11th Feb 2019, 23:16
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It’s a 2.5-3hr flight across the Tasman, I don’t think lie flat beds would be deal breakers.
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Old 11th Feb 2019, 23:34
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Here is your answer. 2022 Max 10. However being aviation anything could happen. Wouldn’t rule out a 321 NEO for international somewhere in the group. Maybe VARA.
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 00:05
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Wouldn’t rule out a 321 NEO for international somewhere in the group.
Using Virgin logic, it’ll probably be Tiger.
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 00:14
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There's still a lot of A330s into PER after they started using them to Asia. Though they are starting China soon so that may change. On the Tasman I think VA will hold their own. NZ have selected wide bodies but still a lot of A320s which are all economy. The NZ model is seat, seat + bag, etc whereas VA is all inclusive.
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 01:36
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Quite simply, it ain’t happening. Who knows with the 10s...

The MAXs aren’t even going to short haul international...

NEO 321?! Just what we need... another fleet type...
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 01:45
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321 could go to VARA or Tiger they’re operating 320. It’s not another fleet type just a short course on engine differences.
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 04:34
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The lie-flat 737 seats were announced to counter the withdrawl of A330 services from the east coast to Perth. Pretty much all QF east-west is with lie flat business class but with VA it was/is getting a bit hit and miss as the mix between 737s and A330s means a regular business class passenger is turned off the vastly different experiences and changes terminals at Perth.

The lie-flat was supposed to come with the 737 MAX-8 which has been deferred until next year - its got nothing to do with the -10 order. (digression) Probably wouldn't be worthwhile on a short-haul international where the predominant competition to NZ, Bali and Fiji consists of red or black tailed 737s and A32* unless they want to try and step ahead instead of align. I'm actually surprised they didn't remove the business class altogether from the VAI fleet (/digression)
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 05:00
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Originally Posted by UnderneathTheRadar View Post

the 737 MAX-8 which has been deferred until next year
Pretty sure they’re due this year? As soon as 6 months away?
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 05:18
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Pretty sure they’re due this year? As soon as 6 months away?
Is it 2019 already? Duh - yes, they're probably closer than next year although the mess that Boeing have gotten themselves into with MCAS updates after the Lion Air accident is interesting.
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 05:24
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Why are people suggesting that VA start operating the A320.

I am sure VA and QF would have enough data to compare the 2 aircraft by now.
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 06:34
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Virgin jumped the gun and got good slots and pricing on the MAX so why on earth would they bother blowing capital, which they don’t have, on Airbus?

I’d be more worried about the rat who hasn’t ordered anything at all, except a hundred odd Airbus for its low cost sibling whilst the parent is facing the prospect of a two decade old narrow body fleet. In 5 years Virgins 737 fleet age will be 3 years whilst QF hits 20.
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 06:50
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In 5 years Virgins 737 fleet age will be 3 years whilst QF hits 20.
Errrr..... How do you figure that?
Given they have 75 737's and they have only ordered 40 new ones and the first one hasn't even turned up yet, can't see how a fleet age average of 3 years is possible.

Not to mention Qantas's 737 fleet age is 11 years today so it will have to warp time to be 20 years old in 5 years time.
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 07:27
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Pretty much all QF east-west is with lie flat business class but with VA it was/is getting a bit hit and miss as the mix between 737s and A330s means a regular business class passenger is turned off the vastly different experiences and changes terminals at Perth.
Not to mention the VARA F100 business class experience.
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 21:58
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Originally Posted by topend3 View Post
There's still a lot of A330s into PER after they started using them to Asia. Though they are starting China soon so that may change. On the Tasman I think VA will hold their own. NZ have selected wide bodies but still a lot of A320s which are all economy. The NZ model is seat, seat + bag, etc whereas VA is all inclusive.

When are Virgin starting China flying shags? Nothing has been formally announced, only rumours and speculation....🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

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Old 13th Feb 2019, 01:37
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Using VA logic

They’ll go to Alliance...... I mean Qantas.
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