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Old 5th Feb 2019, 04:04
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So no one sees the share purchases as a way of ensuring future spare parts for the Network F100s?
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Old 5th Feb 2019, 09:05
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Network Alliance merger will be the future.
Refleet to A320
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Old 5th Feb 2019, 09:44
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Maybe;
Alliance to stick to the Fokker
Network to move to all A320

A320's to spread around the country just like the 717's have.
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Old 5th Feb 2019, 11:18
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How long before we see VARA on ML-SY-ML?
Not long I suspect.
Pretty sure they’re already doing ML-AD-ML.
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Old 5th Feb 2019, 12:04
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Originally Posted by Berealgetreal View Post
How long before we see VARA on ML-SY-ML?
VARA is already doing PER-ADL-PER using the Fokker 100

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...h-fnj#1f6664bb
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Old 5th Feb 2019, 21:40
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So what sort of IFE can the business traveller expect on a Fokker 100? Doing PER-ADL-PER or MEL-SY-MEL.
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Old 5th Feb 2019, 21:52
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VARA has been operating an A320 out of Melbourne over the past week. PER-KAL-MEL, then a few of MEL-ADL-MEL before going back to PER.
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Old 6th Feb 2019, 00:13
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VARA has also been running the 320 PER-DRW-PER, effectively handing the Business Class market on that route on a platter to QF.

So what sort of IFE can the business traveller expect on a Fokker 100? Doing PER-ADL-PER or MEL-SY-MEL
Hah! Good one
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Old 6th Feb 2019, 04:22
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Originally Posted by Icarus2001 View Post
So what sort of IFE can the business traveller expect on a Fokker 100? Doing PER-ADL-PER or MEL-SY-MEL.
Having flown the VARA F100 several times recently PER-ADL, it has the same BYOD streaming IFE system as the 737s. Only, a lot less reliable.
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Old 6th Feb 2019, 10:46
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The IFE system for the F100 is called Blue box from memory it was introduced by Air Niugini
Standard BYOD system that’s cheap to install and I believe works well.


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Old 6th Feb 2019, 14:10
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Originally Posted by chickoroll View Post
This could be a good thing for VA, if they get someone who knows the they are doing they could easily expand VARA to replace them.
You mean buy all the aeroplanes back that they retired and re-hire all the staff they let go... seriously, I have no idea why the mail room boy bought SkyWest... it was like buying a house then demolishing everything except the garage and living in that...
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Old 6th Feb 2019, 14:15
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Originally Posted by The Green Goblin View Post
This is there to leverage the network guys, who leverage the Jetstar guys who leverage the qantas guys.

It also looks like they are building up a national fifo operation. They will end up with pretty much all the fokkers in the world. Netlance will also be big enough to take on 320s from JQ as they reach the end of their high utilisation life.

It could be a formidable operation if merged with sunstate, eastern and eventually the cobham airline division.

It will also pincer VA who use alliance as a stop gap to cover network shortages.

Interesting times.
I actually wonder if with the 717s maintenance going offshore and the aeroplanes getting older if this isn't a pre-cursor to giving Cobham the flick and offloading the 717s (given the 71s are younger possibly but I think with Alliance, QF must have access to more F100s now than it has 717s...). This would standardise the fleet to 787, A330, 737, F100, Dash8... maybe not but it is certainly a possibility.
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Old 6th Feb 2019, 14:26
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Originally Posted by wishiwasupthere View Post
VARA has been operating an A320 out of Melbourne over the past week. PER-KAL-MEL, then a few of MEL-ADL-MEL before going back to PER.
I think that's KGI if you're talking about Kalgoorlie. Just sayin'
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Old 6th Feb 2019, 23:36
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No, I’m talking about the VARA flight that goes from Perth to Melbourne, via Kaltag in Alaska. Just sayin’.
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Old 7th Feb 2019, 01:58
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Originally Posted by wishiwasupthere View Post
No, I’m talking about the VARA flight that goes from Perth to Melbourne, via Kaltag in Alaska. Just sayin’.
LOL... That's funny, I'll pay that...
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Old 8th Feb 2019, 09:36
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The ACCC is investigating Qantas’ acquisition of a 19.9 per cent stake in Alliance Airlines, to assess whether there has been a breach of section 50 of the Competition and Consumer Act.

https://www.accc.gov.au/public-regis...n-services-ltd

Qantas Airways Ltd - acquisition of 19.9% interest in Alliance Aviation Services Ltd

Status:
Under consideration
Industry:
Aviation
Commenced public review:
7 February 2019

Acquirer(s)

  • Qantas Airways Limited

Target(s)

  • Alliance Aviation Services Ltd

Summary

Investigation of Qantas' completed acquisition of a 19.9 per cent interest in Alliance Airlines.

Market inquiries

The ACCC is investigating Qantas’ acquisition of a 19.9 per cent stake in Alliance Airlines, to assess whether there has been a breach of section 50 of the Competition and Consumer Act. The issues on which the ACCC will focus, and seek submissions, will be detailed in a market inquiry letter that will be published on this public register shortly. The due date for submissions will be 4 March 2019.

The ACCC will not provide a provisional decision date, as we do not generally publish provisional decision dates when investigating completed acquisitions.

If you have any queries about this matter or wish to make a submission, please contact [email protected], John Rouw (03) 9290 1402 or Andrew Mahony on (03) 9290 1983.

Timeline

DateEvent07/02/2019ACCC commenced investigation.04/03/2019Closing date for submissions.

Project staff

  • John Rouw
  • Andrew Mahony

Contact email

[email protected]
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Old 8th Feb 2019, 11:51
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They’re probably working on the theory that forgiveness is easier than permission
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Old 8th Feb 2019, 14:00
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Plus Shorten should be in in May and Albo would think its a great idea..... so they will get the lot in the end. AUS the Island with no competition at any level or any industry excellent.
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Old 8th Feb 2019, 21:00
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Qantas won't be too bothered.

Rocket Rod Sims despite dismissing the 'terminal decline' argument (which Qantas used as reason for an exemption to Competition Law) nonetheless approved a captive 'alliance' between Qantas and Emirates granting them an 'exemption'.
What 'marginal material benefits' were supposedly bestowed on Australian consumers was left scantily detailed.
Light handed regulation by Australia's regulators shows impressive results, the Hayne Royal Commission making headlines worldwide and 76 recommendations, somehow expects the same regulators and their light touch that got Australia into the mess will miraculously also fix the problem.

Rest assured Rocket Rod is on it, if not already a member of the Chairman's lounge, an invite should ensure the right answer...
Soft corruption is a beautiful thing.
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Old 8th Feb 2019, 21:50
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Don't think for one minute that the QF bunker wouldn't have anticipated this before their move...
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