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Malindo tries a flapless takeoff, Perth

Old 10th Jan 2019, 15:09
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Originally Posted by Bula View Post

As for disconnecting ground personnel, your brain allows you speak and watch action, two seperate single channel processes for the brain. I would argue that you can disconnect him while monitoring PM duties. Just do not get distracted by looking out the window until the PM has finished, otherwise the previous paragraph applies.

Forgetting or running over the dispatcher is also one of those items that will quickly have you grounded. In my humble opinion, get rid of them as part of your flow. A deliberate inaction, Not disconnecting the dispatcher, while awaiting another action, Status Review from the PM, increases the chances exponentially that the intended action will be forgotten. Complete your sequences in their entirety, or start from the beginning.

Or just follow your types SOP for when to disconnect em
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Old 10th Jan 2019, 17:51
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Quite some years ago in a large British Airline a 737 attempted to depart with zero flaps. That pesky cabin altitude warning horn sounded and the chap in the LH seat realised that lack of flaps was the issue. His response: Set flap to 5 and continue with the departure. All seen on Flight Data Monitoring unfortunately, so the result was a swift left to right seat conversion.

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Old 10th Jan 2019, 20:46
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Maggot you are correct, the point being follow your flow in its entirety according to SOP. Don’t partially follow it in an attempt to wait for a subconscious trigger.

You can add additional “self checks”, but the trigger must be fool proof. However, it’s important to realise that these “self checks” are usually forgotten in high workload situations.

I know personally on the bus I use “Fuel, Flap, F$&k off list” when given a line up clearance on departure, and passing 1000’ on approach.
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Old 11th Jan 2019, 11:42
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IE an abort commenced at 45 KIAS on runway 34L at YSSY doesn't need max braking, spoilers (if you fly a type that requires they be manually extended), and max reverse - but I'll at least apply/select all of them - so it's the same process every time
Reverse is useless at 45 knots so it makes no sense to use it simply because it's the same process every time. On top of that you, are asking for a potential compressor stall at that speed with full reverse; especially if a strong crosswind is present.
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Old 12th Jan 2019, 00:02
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Sheppey - I think maybe you missed the "doesn't need" part of what I wrote?
Reverse AND Spoilers are both pretty useless at 45 knots - but they'll do no harm and I'll do the same actions every time.
But, each to their own!
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Old 16th Jan 2019, 07:28
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Surely not getting high on their own supply

Malindo Air cabin crew smuggled $21m worth of drugs into Australia, police allege
By Karen Percy (ABC News)

Police have busted an international drug syndicate that they allege has been using airline cabin crew on board flights from Malaysia to smuggle drugs into Australia over a number of years.

Investigators allege the drugs were carried on the bodies of cabin crew flying to Melbourne and Sydney Police seized luxury cars, $100,000 in cash and drugs during raids in Melbourne earlier this month. One of those alleged to have been involved in the syndicate told police he had made the trip to Australia 19 times before The Australian Federal Police (AFP) and Victoria Police have arrested eight people in the past 10 days who they allege brought heroin, methamphetamine and cocaine worth $21 million into Australia.

Commander Tess Walsh from Victoria Police said the arrests occurred as part of Operation Sunrise, which involved the AFP, Australian Border Force and the Australian Criminal Intelligence Commission.

The joint investigative team has alleged that the syndicate used cabin crews at Malindo Air, a small airline based in Malaysia, to bring the drugs into the country.

Investigators allege the drugs were brought in via Melbourne and Sydney, carried on the bodies of the cabin crew.

One defendant allegedly told investigators it was his 20th trip into Australia.

"[Operation Sunrise] is a complex, five-month operation targeting an alleged Vietnamese organised crime syndicate based in Melbourne," Commander Walsh said.

Commander Walsh said police believed the syndicate had been operating for at least five years and that the drugs seized so far were clearly "not the total amount of drugs" alleged to have been imported.

"This is a significant seizure but I think reality would say that it's not the total amount of drugs that this team have brought into this country," she said.

"Intelligence would tell us that this crew has been operating for some years, I would say five plus … I don't know whether or not it's decades."

Eight arrested across Melbourne
Those arrested by police include a 38-year-old woman arrested on January 7 in Tullamarine, and another six people arrested in raids at Sunshine North and inner-city Melbourne a day later.

On January 14, a woman from Richmond was also arrested.

Two of the defendants were Vietnamese-born Australians.

Six kilograms of heroin were seized, as well as 8kg of methamphetamine and half a kilo of cocaine.

Luxury cars, $100,000 in cash and drug paraphernalia were also seized.

At least two of those arrested were cabin crew with Malindo Air.

Its website describes it as a "premium airline with headquarters in Petajaling Jaya", a town just outside of Kuala Lumpur.

Commander Walsh said the investigation is "active and ongoing".

Malindo Air has been contacted for comment.

(Apparently I need to post more and lurk less to post URLs properly abc.net.au/news/2019-01-16/airline-crews-involved-in-drug-smuggling-ring,-afp-allege/10719106)
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Old 16th Jan 2019, 12:03
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This I find more disturbing. Someone at Orange HQ working the phones to keep this one under the carpet I assume.

In June last year four foreign Jetstar flight attendants were sacked. Police said they were caught with 3.5kg of tobacco strapped to their bodies and hidden down their pants.
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