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Old 23rd Nov 2018, 20:14
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Mecir Validation in Melbourne

Hello,
I appreciate any help here. I am looking for a school to do my MECIR validation. I got the CPL in 2009 but all ratings expired. Does anyone recommend a school that can do a short course to validate my license? I am currently not living in Australia. Thanks for any help.
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Hi Minh,

Do you hold an Australian CPL? if so you will need to do the initial CIR/ME flight test again and possible re-sit the IREX exam??
If you hold an ICAO CPL there used to be a conversion exam check the CASA website.

From personal experience I can recommend Gawne Aviation at Shepparton (just North of Melbourne)
They should be able to taylor something to your needs.

Good luck
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Go speak to Pearson Aviation at Essendon. Great company they’ll be able to help you out ��
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Originally Posted by Minh
Hello,
I appreciate any help here. I am looking for a school to do my MECIR validation. I got the CPL in 2009 but all ratings expired. Does anyone recommend a school that can do a short course to validate my license? I am currently not living in Australia. Thanks for any help.
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Minh,

I read your thread in the North American section, it looks like, you have been accepted by a regional in the U.S,
and the validity of your instrument rating is about to expire, during your training period.
Am i correct?

My question to you, why did you go to the U.S , if you are your Instrument rating is about to expire?

The U.S regional's have previously advertised, if i'm correct, a person's Instrument Rating from Australia, must be current,
at least by 6 months, before commencing the type rating course with an a regional airline.
I'm sure, you knew that.


Now your Rating is about to expire, i think you are well aware of these issues before commencing your training in the U.S.

Now what?

You either can pass the instrument rating test, after a few IFR short runs or you can't?

Why don't you contact your previous flying school or affiliate, prior to travelling to the u.s?

At one stage, i didn't fly for 5 years and got back into flying, i renewed my Instrument rating after 3 runs, 6 hours.

I'm sure you can do it also.

There's no short course, either, you know how to fly IFR or you don't.

Cheers.
 
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Originally Posted by Seagull201
Minh,

I read your thread in the North American section, it looks like, you have been accepted by a regional in the U.S,
and the validity of your instrument rating is about to expire, during your training period.
Am i correct?

My question to you, why did you go to the U.S , if you are your Instrument rating is about to expire?

The U.S regional's have previously advertised, if i'm correct, a person's Instrument Rating from Australia, must be current,
at least by 6 months, before commencing the type rating course with an a regional airline.
I'm sure, you knew that.


Now your Rating is about to expire, i think you are well aware of these issues before commencing your training in the U.S.

Now what?

You either can pass the instrument rating test, after a few IFR short runs or you can't?

Why don't you contact your previous flying school or affiliate, prior to travelling to the u.s?

At one stage, i didn't fly for 5 years and got back into flying, i renewed my Instrument rating after 3 runs, 6 hours.

I'm sure you can do it also.

There's no short course, either, you know how to fly IFR or you don't.

Cheers.
You maybe dont understand my situation. It is a long story to tell. I have 2 licenses including the Australian license and a Vietnamese license. I got my Australian license in 2009 and then came back to Vietnam where I got most of my airlines experience ( I had 6000h in ATR72, B777 and B787 as FO). I havent come back to Australia since 2009.

I came to U.S last year for pemanent residence and had a struggling time to decide whether to continue my flying career or to go back to college ( I started my career when I was 19 so I didnt have a 4-year degree). At the time I made my decision, all licenses’s ratings expired. I got hired by a regional air and went for an ATP type rating course provided by them. For some reasons they didnt check the currency of my ratings and later told me in the middle of my training course.

Now talk about my Vietnamese license with a full B787 TR/IR. I could have it renewed but to accept the fact that my Civil Aviation Administration of Vietnam wont do any validation for pilots who are NOT belonged to any Vietnamese Airlines. I got triggered by that and in the end I have to use my Australian license to do the FAA conversion.

I appreciate any help for my situation anyways. Cheers
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Done a couple of IPCs with Steve at Peter Bini’s a few years ago. I was very impressed, highly recommended.

Pearson Aviation are also very good.

Both operators have been around for a very long time and have a vast amount of training experience.
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Originally Posted by Minh


You maybe dont understand my situation. It is a long story to tell. I have 2 licenses including the Australian license and a Vietnamese license. I got my Australian license in 2009 and then came back to Vietnam where I got most of my airlines experience ( I had 6000h in ATR72, B777 and B787 as FO). I havent come back to Australia since 2009.

I came to U.S last year for pemanent residence and had a struggling time to decide whether to continue my flying career or to go back to college ( I started my career when I was 19 so I didnt have a 4-year degree). At the time I made my decision, all licenses’s ratings expired. I got hired by a regional air and went for an ATP type rating course provided by them. For some reasons they didnt check the currency of my ratings and later told me in the middle of my training course.

Now talk about my Vietnamese license with a full B787 TR/IR. I could have it renewed but to accept the fact that my Civil Aviation Administration of Vietnam wont do any validation for pilots who are NOT belonged to any Vietnamese Airlines. I got triggered by that and in the end I have to use my Australian license to do the FAA conversion.

I appreciate any help for my situation anyways. Cheers
Okay. I understand your situation.

I'm not an expert, you have to find out further and more accurate info, when you return to Australia.

Your CPL/IR remains perpetual, it's always valid, you don't have to do any exams again, just the multi engine IR flight test.

You say, you haven't been here 9 years, it means you have to first do ALL your medicals, it costs minimum, 1,000 bucks and can take up to
one month, to get the class 1 medical certificate, from start to finish.

You have to buy the approach plates, ERSA, AIP's, CAO's, CAR, documents and read the airspace and IFR rules, before going flying.
All documents can cost up to 1,000 bucks and you probably also need a headset.

You have to find a flight training organisation and talk to them about renewing your IR, you may need just 2 or 3 runs, OR you may need to do
the full 22 hours of flight training, about 8 runs, the 8th run would be the flight test.
It's up to the training people to decide, how much training time you need.
It costs from 500 to 600 dollars an hour to train on a Seminole or Duchess aircraft these days.
It could take a few weeks to complete all your training, or longer, as it's the holiday season soon.

Minh, you have to talk to CASA or your training organisation in Australia, on what's needed for your previous 6,000 hours to be recognized here,
you may need more documents from the Vietnam Civil Aviation Authority.

Minh, if you do get your Australian CPL/IR current again, you need to get your Australian license validated for the US, (CASA sends the FAA your license details etc),
read the thread from page 1 to last, "Australian pilots working in USA", all the info is there.
You also need a TSA clearance.

Talk to the Australian Airline Pilot Academy (Rex Airlines), at Wagga, you can find the details on the internet, they're training cadets from Vietnam.
Maybe they have some communication with the Vietnam Civil Aviation Authority.

Maybe other people can give you more direction, on what's involved.

All the best Minh, you will get there!
 
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Minh,
You don't have to buy all the documents Seagull listed. They are all online and free.
You will have to do the Class 1 medical again but that shouldn't be too much of a problem. Will take some time though. I can't see why you would need the CAAV to verify your hours as you are not converting your Vietnamese licence.

You will do as much training as the instructor deems necessary for the checkride. An ILS with a RNAV will be sufficient for the test.

I have heard good things about a training school in Shepparton too.
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Minh,
You don't have to buy all the documents Seagull listed. They are all online and free.
You will have to do the Class 1 medical again but that shouldn't be too much of a problem. Will take some time though. I can't see why you would need the CAAV to verify your hours as you are not converting your Vietnamese licence.

You will do as much training as the instructor deems necessary for the checkride. An ILS with a RNAV will be sufficient for the test.

I have heard good things about a training school in Shepparton too.
Thanks for the info, I appreciate that. Does a valid FAA Class 1 Medical Certificate meet the CASA medical criteria? I cant use CAAV license because it also expried and CAAV never do validation for pilot who is no longer in any Vietnamese airlines.

Cheers
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No country will accept another countries medical unless it's for a licence validation. Your are stuck with CASA.
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You can get a CASA approved medical done in the US. The latest approved DAME (from CASA’s website) are below. Good luck.

Dr R Andolsen (Male)
465 A March Avenue
HEALDSBURG CA 95448
United States of America
Ph: 707 433 3369
Fax: 707 433 7013

Dr W Brath (Male)
Medical Clinic, Suite 200, 8930 Sepulveda Blvd
LOS ANGELES CALIFORNIA 90045
United States of America
Ph: 310 641 8111
Fax: 310 337 7274
Email: [email protected]

Dr J Dellorso (Male)
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NEWARK NJ 07105
United States of America
Ph: 973 928 8940
Fax: 973 491 6099
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Hi Minh

Originally Posted by Minh


You maybe dont understand my situation. It is a long story to tell. I have 2 licenses including the Australian license and a Vietnamese license. I got my Australian license in 2009 and then came back to Vietnam where I got most of my airlines experience ( I had 6000h in ATR72, B777 and B787 as FO). I havent come back to Australia since 2009.

I came to U.S last year for pemanent residence and had a struggling time to decide whether to continue my flying career or to go back to college ( I started my career when I was 19 so I didnt have a 4-year degree). At the time I made my decision, all licenses’s ratings expired. I got hired by a regional air and went for an ATP type rating course provided by them. For some reasons they didnt check the currency of my ratings and later told me in the middle of my training course.

Now talk about my Vietnamese license with a full B787 TR/IR. I could have it renewed but to accept the fact that my Civil Aviation Administration of Vietnam wont do any validation for pilots who are NOT belonged to any Vietnamese Airlines. I got triggered by that and in the end I have to use my Australian license to do the FAA conversion.

I appreciate any help for my situation anyways. Cheers
Hi Minh

I am a Vietnamese who is studying CPL in Australia.

is there anyway I can have your contact as Facebook or something ?


My situation is quite tricky. The school which I am studying isn’t on the list of approval for converting to a civil authority administration of Vietnam CPL. I really hope you can help me to search for some information how to convert it.

Hope I can talk with you very soon

kind regards

Thanh Huynh
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If you’re still in the US CASA permits an IPC to be partially done at a training centre in a recognised foreign state (the US is recognised). You have to complete the oral with a CASA Examiner. Google CASA Flight Examiners handbook and read section 23. Also their Flight Crew Licencing Manual. Will save you an airfare and hours re- learning how to fly a light twin.
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