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Old 31st Oct 2018, 14:02
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Stupid Press!

https://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...2bf32ce3e10ef9

Really? Even though No ONE has any idea why this aircraft crashed, the press is set on panicking Australian passengers? What a load of S#it!

How about waiting for the resulting investigation?
The cause of the crash could be anything:
Shame on you SHAME SHAME SHAME!
It is IRRESPONSIBLE to put fear in the minds of Australian passengers WITHOUT CREDIBLE EVIDENCE!

Would I travel on Lion Air or Manildo or their other subsidaries? HELL NO!

Would I be worried that VA is buying the 737-8 MAX? No not in the least!

One has NOTHING to do with the other without further evidence to the contrary.
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Old 31st Oct 2018, 14:12
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You seem to be under the impression that the Media are there to present us with News as opposed to publishing whatever they think will make headlines and get them viewers and thusly money.
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Old 31st Oct 2018, 22:29
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I like the story on one of the channels last night, 9 I think, about the now sadly deceased passenger who texted to his wife a video showing his boarding pass and the aeroplane he was about to board. Very poignant - except the aeroplane in his little video was an A320.
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Originally Posted by Trevor the lover View Post
I like the story on one of the channels last night, 9 I think, about the now sadly deceased passenger who texted to his wife a video showing his boarding pass and the aeroplane he was about to board. Very poignant - except the aeroplane in his little video was an A320.

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Hang on aren’t all those things with wings call jumbo jets and fly through air pockets

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Old 1st Nov 2018, 00:35
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There was a time not that long ago when TV news reporters tended to get things right on matters relating to helicopters. This was probably because all the stations had their own helicopters with a pilot available to provide in-house advice on all matters helo.

Serious question: Has any pilot body ever given any thought to running a (say) one day aviation training course for media representatives? Mind you there would also be a need for training courses on every other field of human endeavour but at least aviation could lead the way.
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Old 1st Nov 2018, 01:14
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The media already have access to a highly experienced expert on all matters aviation in GT the bag chucker.
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You seem to be under the impression that the Media are there to present us with News as opposed to publishing whatever they think will make headlines and get them viewers and thusly money.
Additional to that, the size of your advertising budget will influence an editor's choice of stories that get published and ones that are withheld.
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Old 1st Nov 2018, 02:07
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Zanthrus you should never expect anything better from anything run/owned by Rupert Murdoch. He started at the bottom and kept digging to reach the depths he is at now.
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Old 1st Nov 2018, 03:52
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This one is worse...

https://www.9news.com.au/world/2018/...eing-737-crash
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Why isn't Geoffrey Thomas in the ATSB? He has solved the accident already hasn't he? Why does the ATSB take so long when Geoffrey had it nailed in under 12 hours?
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Old 1st Nov 2018, 04:57
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I like how CH 9 think that the 737 MAX is one of the 'most advanced planes'. It is at best 1960's technology/systems/flight controls with a couple of TV screens. It doesn't even have a EICAS system, which is 1970's technology!!!
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Originally Posted by neville_nobody View Post
I like how CH 9 think that the 737 MAX is one of the 'most advanced planes'. It is at best 1960's technology/systems/flight controls with a couple of TV screens. It doesn't even have a EICAS system, which is 1970's technology!!!
AIRBUS, way of the future hey Nev
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Hey Nev, just curious you know, in what performance parameter does your all singing and dancing Airbus improve on over the 737, especially since it is a 20 year newer design?
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Old 1st Nov 2018, 06:51
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Just picked this up on another thread (Malindo Magic). From the Australian "But he said in the Lion Air crash, it would appear the pilot did all the right things.". That statement, and its unquestioned reporting, has to be up for some sort of prize.
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Gotta sell them papers, mate!!!
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Old 1st Nov 2018, 22:58
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I might be picky here but I'll give media a bit of credibility in aviation reporting when they stop referring to a flight data recorder as the black box.
Even the news photo in this latest tragedy clearly showed an orange cylindrical shaped item. Neither black, nor a box.
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Old 1st Nov 2018, 23:36
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Originally Posted by YPJT View Post
I might be picky here but I'll give media a bit of credibility in aviation reporting when they stop referring to a flight data recorder as the black box.
Even the news photo in this latest tragedy clearly showed an orange cylindrical shaped item. Neither black, nor a box.
The media tried calling them orange boxes for a while, but the public thought they were talking about greengrocers.
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Most journalists are still stuck in the mindset of the 40s and 50s - when design flaws such as the Comet's rectangular windows genuinely did lead to accidents, and knowledge about aerodynamics and airframe construction was still rapidly evolving.
Hence they'll usually focus immediately on the aircraft type, possible `fatal flaws' etc.
Because of this they don't appreciate that modern airliners and high bypass turbofans are some of the safest and most reliable mechanical objects ever designed by human beings.
And that the vast, vast majority of accidents are caused by pilot error, or in rarer cases maintenance or operator oversights.
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Originally Posted by tartare View Post
Most journalists are still stuck in the mindset of the 40s and 50s - when design flaws such as the Comet's rectangular windows genuinely did lead to accidents, and knowledge about aerodynamics and airframe construction was still rapidly evolving.
Hence they'll usually focus immediately on the aircraft type, possible `fatal flaws' etc.
Because of this they don't appreciate that modern airliners and high bypass turbofans are some of the safest and most reliable mechanical objects ever designed by human beings.
And that the vast, vast majority of accidents are caused by pilot error, or in rarer cases maintenance or operator oversights.
How dare you not cow tow to the new Reason paradigm " it must be investigated til everyone shares the blame equally"
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