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Old 8th Oct 2018, 13:19
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Has the airframe been fished out of the Lagoon yet?
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Old 8th Oct 2018, 14:53
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Originally Posted by lucille
..Except passenger reports implied an over run...
Not implied. Very specifically. It was an over run and the tail hit the end of the runway.

https://www.thenational.com.pg/air-n...how-he-helped/
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Old 8th Oct 2018, 14:57
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Originally Posted by BewareOfTheSharklets
Has the airframe been fished out of the Lagoon yet?
Why would they want to go to the expense of fishing it out of the lagoon? It would be better for the local economy and more useful as a diving attraction for tourists than any value or information they might salvage from it.
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Old 8th Oct 2018, 16:35
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Originally Posted by gulliBell
Not implied. Very specifically. It was an over run and the tail hit the end of the runway.

https://www.thenational.com.pg/air-n...how-he-helped/
Not sure I'd trust the account of someone if he made sure he picked up his hand luggage before opening the emergency exit!
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Old 8th Oct 2018, 23:03
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told The National that he deserved a pat on the back for what he and colleague did when the passengers and crew were looking for an escape route after the crash
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I need to be commended for the bravery I displayed at that time in utilising my skills to save lives.
Makes you wonder why airlines bother training cabin crew at all with people like this around
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Old 8th Oct 2018, 23:22
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Makes you wonder why airlines bother training cabin crew at all with people like this around

The guy in the video who is apparently a reporter for some local rag is an absolute tosser and a prime example of why the media has lost all credibility!
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Old 9th Oct 2018, 00:53
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They need to get it out of the lagoon as it poses an environmental hazard.

There is fuel, oil and hydraulic fluid onboard. Unless it has all leaked out already?
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Old 9th Oct 2018, 09:03
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Originally Posted by Capt Fathom
They need to get it out of the lagoon as it poses an environmental hazard.

There is fuel, oil and hydraulic fluid onboard. Unless it has all leaked out already?
funny you should mention that...in other recent reading it seems nogat plenti moni for the last 70 years to raise wrecks in Chuuk lagoon of all places
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Old 9th Oct 2018, 09:45
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https://thorfinn.net/truk-lagoon/truk-history/

Mmmm there are one or two there already. The fuel will float and then evaporate probably.
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Old 9th Oct 2018, 11:07
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I imagine there is more fuel/oil leaking out of ships every second into the ocean than is contained in that 737.
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Old 9th Oct 2018, 11:33
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Originally Posted by Capt Fathom
They need to get it out of the lagoon as it poses an environmental hazard.
Not to mention an ongoing embarrassment to the airline.

I can't see the salvage operation being particularly challenging technically. There were reports within a day or so of the event, probably a tad premature, that a salvage team was on its way from New Zealand.

I suspect that after a bit of the usual wrangling from the insurers, the aircraft will be lifted within the next couple of weeks.
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Old 9th Oct 2018, 12:27
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Whats the value in bringing it up if the cause of the accident was pilot error?

Environmental issues? Certainly however is the impact going to be worth the hassle. In the grand scheme of things I don’t think it will hurt if it was to be left down there to Rest In Peace.
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Old 9th Oct 2018, 13:20
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Duck pilot, are you serious?
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Old 9th Oct 2018, 13:29
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Environmental issues? Certainly however is the impact going to be worth the hassle. In the grand scheme of things I don’t think it will hurt if it was to be left down there to Rest In Peace.
It's an aeroplane. It doesn't have a soul.

I'm struggling to think of any jet airliner that has gone down in relatively shallow waters in recent years and has been left there.
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Old 16th Oct 2018, 03:00
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Was it an undershoot or overrun?
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Old 16th Oct 2018, 06:54
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I'm struggling to think of any jet airliner that has gone down in relatively shallow waters in recent years and has been left there.
Unless I'm mistaken, a number of years ago there was one Ecec type Jet left where it had ditched.

No idea why, but others may.
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Old 16th Oct 2018, 07:01
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Originally Posted by HANOI
Was it an undershoot or overrun?
Yes, almost certainly, discounting the RTO theory floated (npi) earlier.
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Old 16th Oct 2018, 07:24
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Originally Posted by HANOI
Was it an undershoot or overrun?
They are obviously still deciding what the FDR & CVR should contain as to an overrun being called an undershoot (due I expect wind shear) or it's best that the black boxes contain no data.
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Old 16th Oct 2018, 10:12
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I can pretty much guarantee it crashed short of 04 as both pilots went head free. Overrun doesn’t cut it in my mind. If it over ran the runway it would be nose first into the water off the wall end. I reckon they were doing a go around as well just as they impacted the water. Time will tell.
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Old 16th Oct 2018, 11:24
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The brace call mentioned earlier makes me think it was an over-run. I can’t see someone getting one out in an undershoot.
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