Jetstar crew - $100 per week.
ALTARA!
They can be very 'liberal' in their interpretation of what is a Tag flight. Just look at the Auckland - Rarotonga sector, there is no open skies agreement on this sector and to start an NZ - Cook Islands flight requires government approval. Jetstar answer was of course to construct this pattern as a Melbourne - Auckland - Rarotonga tag flight meaning that no authorization was required. The confusing thing though is that the two sectors are operated on Different Aircraft....... Different Crew ......... and of course no pax actually purchase a MEL - RAR flight, all the pax get on in AKL. I am amazed that Air NZ hasn't kicked up more of a fuss about this as it opens up so many NZ routes under the guise of being a tag flight. But hey, they get away with it and so will keep on doing it...... and don't get me started on 'we take fatigue very seriously'!
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That said zero will get done about it for the reasons already mentioned. You can’t help but feel for them ‘it’s a good wage in Thailand...
The way the Thai and Singaporean crews are treated is a disgrace and using the argument “everyone else does it” rings a bit hollow.
Well maybe the regulators might need to start regulating. I'll bet they wouldn't trying this on with the US government. They take this kind of stuff very seriously.
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Is this where we are as a nation?
Based on one's nationality, you will be remunerated less than an Australian in the same role. Consider this: two cabin crew sign off from the same JQ flight and head out for a meal. One is Australian, one is Thai. Both work for the same operator. Only difference - the Thai national will be given a lesser meal allowance. DISCRIMINATION? You bet!
Based on one's nationality, you will be remunerated less than an Australian in the same role. Consider this: two cabin crew sign off from the same JQ flight and head out for a meal. One is Australian, one is Thai. Both work for the same operator. Only difference - the Thai national will be given a lesser meal allowance. DISCRIMINATION? You bet!
As mentioned a couple of times previously this type of crewing is fairly common throughout the world, QF has history using bases in LHR, BKK and AKL and using third party organizations for crew. JQ is just doing what a large number of airlines throughout the world do.
The traveling public don’t care, they are only concerned if it will raise the price of a ticket, not if it is ethical or not.
The traveling public don’t care, they are only concerned if it will raise the price of a ticket, not if it is ethical or not.
While you may rightly be upset about the employment terms of foreign cabin crew working for Jetstar, have any of you voiced disapproval about the enormous salaries paid to foreigners working for Chinese carriers? Do I hear anyone suggesting that Chinese nationals who are pilots receive the same pay as the foreigners who share their flight decks? Just wondering!
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Ken B.
Obviously you haven't read the whole thread. It started out commenting that the Thai crew's meal allowances do not allow them to buy suitable meals while slipping in Australia.As someone who spent a working lifetime as International crew I can see that this is a problem for them.
I suspect that overpaid (in your opinion) pilots wouldn't have a problem sourcing food while they are slipping in China.
Wunwing
Obviously you haven't read the whole thread. It started out commenting that the Thai crew's meal allowances do not allow them to buy suitable meals while slipping in Australia.As someone who spent a working lifetime as International crew I can see that this is a problem for them.
I suspect that overpaid (in your opinion) pilots wouldn't have a problem sourcing food while they are slipping in China.
Wunwing
Ken B.
Obviously you haven't read the whole thread. It started out commenting that the Thai crew's meal allowances do not allow them to buy suitable meals while slipping in Australia.As someone who spent a working lifetime as International crew I can see that this is a problem for them.
I suspect that overpaid (in your opinion) pilots wouldn't have a problem sourcing food while they are slipping in China.
Wunwing
Obviously you haven't read the whole thread. It started out commenting that the Thai crew's meal allowances do not allow them to buy suitable meals while slipping in Australia.As someone who spent a working lifetime as International crew I can see that this is a problem for them.
I suspect that overpaid (in your opinion) pilots wouldn't have a problem sourcing food while they are slipping in China.
Wunwing
As mentioned a couple of times previously this type of crewing is fairly common throughout the world, QF has history using bases in LHR, BKK and AKL and using third party organizations for crew.
Foreign cabin crew can be justified on routes with a specific language requirement, Japan for example. Jetstar however appear to be emulating the American cruise ship model where crewing is concerned. US officers, Bangladeshis below decks unseen and a mixture of nationalities in customer service roles carefully chosen so that they don't trust each other and won't unite and unionize. Chinese, Philippine, Vietnamese and Indians all speak different languages and each country has a territorial dispute with one or more of the others.
Classic divide and rule.
Classic divide and rule.
I would be very shocked if there were not enough suitable locals to crew JQ international flights in place of the lower-paid foreign cabin crew if so desired by the company.
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What do you think the entire 457 visa scheme was all about, until very recently anyway.
Filling unfillable jobs? Don't be silly.
Just look at the Auckland - Rarotonga sector, there is no open skies agreement on this sector and to start an NZ - Cook Islands flight requires government approval.
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Boston Bruce Buchanan claimed all manner of 'social interest' when confronted by this issue in Australia circa 2014. Curiously that social interest didn't extend to any sort of personal or company welfare expenditure in Thailand.
Until the great unwashed stop buying flash brands all made in sweatshops of Asia, stop flying sweatshop airlines they will comfort themselves in the knowledge that they secured a bargain!
After all it was far more important for free plastic bags at supermarkets to be paid for by generations in a 1000 years time, so the Aussie consumer isn't out of pocket for creating waste!
Until the great unwashed stop buying flash brands all made in sweatshops of Asia, stop flying sweatshop airlines they will comfort themselves in the knowledge that they secured a bargain!
After all it was far more important for free plastic bags at supermarkets to be paid for by generations in a 1000 years time, so the Aussie consumer isn't out of pocket for creating waste!
