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Old 10th Aug 2018, 03:28
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Originally Posted by Mach E Avelli
Grand social experiments have no place in certain professions. Who would willingly submit to the knife of a ‘token’ surgeon? Or drill of a should-have-failed dentist?

A good friend was married to a very capable female pilot who had risen to a senior check pilot position in a major U.S. airline. She did it on equal terms with a mostly white male cohort. Then this airline decided to have a quota to include various minority and disadvantaged groups. Failure rate increased and remedial training costs blew out.
She was quite vocal in what she thought of the break down in the traditional meritocracy that had worked so well for so long.

If only the shareholders knew how wisely their money was being spent by their ‘progressive’ CEO.
Reminds me of that scene in one of the Dirty Harry movies where he's transferred to personnel and has to interview candidates for Inspector... a feminist is on the panel and the first applicant has never made even a misdemeanor arrest but is vying for the job to help the Mayor's 'equality drive' - Callaghan in his typical style says "So, she might get her ass blown off but that's not the end of it, out there she'll have a partner and he'll probably get his ass blown off as well and that's a hell of a price to pay for being stylish."

One small note - tell me to bugger off if you like - but I liked your comment except for the use of the word 'cohort'... it's the favorite of politicians and people like MM these days - so smacks of that whole group - just an observation - I find it and things like reaching out and 'outcomes' to be tiresome.
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Use of ‘cohort’ was preferable to writing “colleagues of approximately equal experience, age and seniority”. Certainly not intended to emulate PC speak.
Staff who write manuals etc should refuse to write ‘they’ or ‘their’ when the singular he, she, her, his, etc. is easier on the eye of the reader.





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Old 11th Aug 2018, 06:12
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Originally Posted by Mach E Avelli
Use of ‘cohort’ was preferable to writing “colleagues of approximately equal experience, age and seniority”. Certainly not intended to emulate PC speak.
Staff who write manuals etc should refuse to write ‘they’ or ‘their’ when the singular he, she, her, his, etc. is easier on the eye of the reader.




Agree. Was just an observation... I know it wasn't intended to be PC. Another one writers of manuals should avoid from what I remember some years ago is 'you should do this' and 'you should do that'... etc. Not that I'm any expert on writing or manuals.
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LOL, ironically the majority of responses here justify McArthur's observations.
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Old 11th Aug 2018, 21:49
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LOL, I think the silent majority haven’t even started yet. Wait until we tell you what we really think!
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The pilots award, Appendix 6, still stipulates females, and short pilots, are to be remunerated 15% less than their counterparts. This is a hangover from the testosterone filled 1970’s, and should be amended.
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Can’t wait until they reomove that sexist word NOTAM from the industry and replace it with something that recognises the first people of our nation, transgender persons, the fairer sex, migrants, those with a disability, members of the NSW Labor party and any miniority group of religious and non religious persuasion, global warming sceptics, etc!
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I would suggest NOTAP: NOtice To AirPersons. It would be good airpersonship to check them before flight.
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Old 12th Aug 2018, 01:29
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Originally Posted by FL11967
LOL, ironically the majority of responses here justify McArthur's observations.
Got any sort of objective rebuttal to offer, or is that it?
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Originally Posted by Captain Dart
I would suggest NOTAP: NOtice To AirPersons. It would be good airpersonship to check them before flight.
Didn’t they already change the flight deck terminology from “Cockpit” to “Box Office”?
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Originally Posted by FL11967
LOL, ironically the majority of responses here justify McArthur's observations.
i think it just reflects that most of us are sick of all the PC Crap that is rammed down our throats every day. This muppet should just concentrate on running an airline.
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Originally Posted by Captain Dart
I would suggest NOTAP: NOtice To AirPersons. It would be good airpersonship to check them before flight.
Captain Dart,
--- Person is not permissible, as it reflects (white) heterocentric bias, PerX is preferred (see Australian Government Style Guide, or whatever its present name is)
X denotes multiple genders of choice, is singular or plural, and completely devoid of any hetero-normative connotations.

As in Mx, as the recommended substitute for Mr/Mrs/Miss/Master/Ms. My "spouse equivalent" and I have both received letters, Dear Mx -------, so addressed, from Commonwealth bodies.

So, how about NOTAX ??

Tootle pip!!

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Old 12th Aug 2018, 08:27
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No tax would be nice but I have to admit I like the idea of roading, hospitals, benefit for people who are really having a bad run etc, so how about SUMTAX?
On topic, I agree that most people who are not a clear minority are sick to the back teeth of Australian executives wandering around tut tutting and giving ‘sage’ advice.
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Originally Posted by Stationair8
Can’t wait until they reomove that sexist word NOTAM from the industry and replace it with something that recognises the first people of our nation, transgender persons, the fairer sex, migrants, those with a disability, members of the NSW Labor party and any miniority group of religious and non religious persuasion, global warming sceptics, etc!
We're mammals aren't we... change it to NOtice To Air Mammals and no need to change the abbreviation
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NOTHS

Notice to Homo sapiens!
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Old 14th Aug 2018, 07:28
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But I’m not a Homo sapien....not that I have anything against those who are.
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Old 14th Aug 2018, 07:40
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I’ve probably been hanging out with too many VA pilots with facial hair
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Originally Posted by AerialPerspective
We're mammals aren't we... change it to NOtice To Air Mammals and no need to change the abbreviation
Its a new age. We need new definitions.

Notice
To
Pan Sexual
Exogenous
Non identifying
Uni doctrinal
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I’ve probably been hanging out with too many VA pilots with facial hair
jealous??

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It will be interesting if any of the internal candidates get the ceo role. Given the way to joint has been managed the internal candidates cannot be anything except complicite with the incompetence, so it stands to reason that if an internal is appointed then more of the same will result.

If the major shareholders are prepared to dump money into the place then great, but a middle eastern airline who shall remain nameless has let their shareholdings in Air Berlin and Alitalia go by the wayside after they stopped being prepared to pour good money after bad, and their other major shareholding in India is reportedly close to running out of cash, so it wouldn’t seem impossible that they might get to the end of their rope at some point. Similarly with another major investor, from a nation to our north, being forced to divest themselves of assets because they are over extended, it also wouldn’t come as a great shock if they graciously declined the offer to tip in more cash.

So I would think the employees have a lot to fear from an internal getting the job. Would an external do a better job? Don’t know, it might be too late, who knows, but hopefully an external might have some perspective which is currently missing.
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