Douglas Haywood and Ross Kelly
Something to consider when venturing far from home! Travel Insurance!
Last edited by Capt Fathom; 31st Jul 2018 at 23:09.
Insurance companies are ruthlessly mercenary and hard-headed. They up for a lot of costs while their insured are receiving care off-shore but once they can get them back here, the insurance ends and the taxpayer through Medicare picks up the costs (or private health insurance if that's an option). Insurers do their damnedest to minimise their costs and get the patients back to Oz as quickly as they can. I wonder how much pressure they apply to the medical profession?
Folks,
Qantas has "bolt-in" modules for carrying very seriously injured persons confined to a stretcher, including self-contained oxygen and various power supplies with plugs for various equipment.
Carrying badly injured persons is relatively common, it is not cheap, but neither is a medivac aircraft.
Tootle pip!!
PS: Why can't I spell "medivac" (sic) the way I think it should be??
Qantas has "bolt-in" modules for carrying very seriously injured persons confined to a stretcher, including self-contained oxygen and various power supplies with plugs for various equipment.
Carrying badly injured persons is relatively common, it is not cheap, but neither is a medivac aircraft.
Tootle pip!!
PS: Why can't I spell "medivac" (sic) the way I think it should be??
Yep the bolt in modules take out 9 revenue seats from memory (maybe more).
A medivac jet would need to go the long way around no doubt, unless there is a something longer range. In the region I’ve seen the CL605 with around a 7 hour range.
I wonder if QF would assist with these gentlemen? Then it would only be a medivac jet to Joburg, I haven’t followed exactly where they are.
Good luck and get well soon fellow aviators.
edited - yes the site is changing “medivac” to medevac when saving?
A medivac jet would need to go the long way around no doubt, unless there is a something longer range. In the region I’ve seen the CL605 with around a 7 hour range.
I wonder if QF would assist with these gentlemen? Then it would only be a medivac jet to Joburg, I haven’t followed exactly where they are.
Good luck and get well soon fellow aviators.
edited - yes the site is changing “medivac” to medevac when saving?
I think you will find and it’s a personal opinion only that Qantas will help out. There is I am told reliably no insurance.
Sound about right, per stretcher, plus seats for the medical attendants.
I sincerely hope they do have travel insurance that sticks, otherwise there going to be an urgent need for a cloud/crowd funding effort.
Tootle pip!!
Qantas Pilots have been known to be tight with their cash :-( but in this case I have no doubt that the money will not be a problem.
They are both held in extremely high regard as examples of professional pilots, trainers and absolute gentlemen.
They are both held in extremely high regard as examples of professional pilots, trainers and absolute gentlemen.
That's why we charge 9 full Y fares!
I've learnt something today.
I've learnt something today.
Returning to Australia
An article in the Australian newspaper reporting Ross and Doug are to be flown back to Australia for further treatment by QF soon.
An article in the Australian newspaper reporting Ross and Doug are to be flown back to Australia for further treatment by QF soon.
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They are coming back probably in the next ten days. I spoke to a pilot who saw them in hospital Doug is responding with hand squeezes Ross is still critical.
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Unfortunately not a good read...
But apart from the spelling and grammatical errors which my 10yo son could proof-read, the Factual Summary specifically says the F/O was type rated on the aircraft (page 13) but then the preliminary findings says he wasn’t. Of course whether or not that could be a causal factor is not explored by the report.
But what the hell is a comment like this doing in the preliminary findings:
2.6 The Crew resource management (CRM) in the cockpit was found lacking
This defies belief in an official report. It probably indicates which direction this investigation will follow.
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