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Old 15th Jul 2018, 18:53
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Thank you V-Jet
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Old 15th Jul 2018, 20:17
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Response to the rant by IsDon earlier, which would seem to have been pulled by the administrators.

Yes, my first post using THIS username. I am not and never have been a journalist. I am a retired QF B744 captain with 38 years service and 23000 hours. I have had the pleasure of having both Ross and Doug as members of my crews over the years and hold them in high regard.

Additionally I am experienced in long distance ferry of ancient multi engined aircraft one of which suffered a catastrophic engine failure on take off, fortunately before rotate, so you see my interest here?
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Old 15th Jul 2018, 21:16
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Ross had an operation on his leg 2 nights ago which has been assessed as successful. His wife is recovering well.

Doug is still critical but is gradually stabilising.
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Thank you Going Boeing. Much appreciated. Not close to the news this side of the ditch.
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Old 16th Jul 2018, 00:39
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Originally Posted by FE to the stars
Where did these guys get their type ratings? I was not aware there were Convairs operating in Aussie.
Both PDW and PDX have been hauling freight for years in Australia under Pionair as the operator, while over the ditch Air Chatham have 5 in fleet.

VH-PDX Convair 580

VH-PDW Convair 580
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...also VH-TAA sister ship to one that crashed..
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Thanks for the update on their condition. Much appreciated Going Boeing. Future updates also appreciated
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Old 16th Jul 2018, 16:04
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Originally Posted by Overtheditch
I am a retired QF B744 captain with 38 years service and 23000 hours.

Additionally I am experienced in long distance ferry of ancient multi engined aircraft one of which suffered a catastrophic engine failure on take off, fortunately before rotate, so you see my interest here?
When things settle down, it would be great to hear about this; your perspective and experience would doubtless offer some useful lessons to many of us here.
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The main Rumours and News post is chock a block with theorists about the cause. Any news on Ross, Doug, wives, families etc? Current status, prognosis, etc. Like IMPORTANT stuff?
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Old 19th Jul 2018, 13:20
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Originally Posted by Overtheditch
The main Rumours and News post is chock a block with theorists about the cause. Any news on Ross, Doug, wives, families etc? Current status, prognosis, etc. Like IMPORTANT stuff?
This morning had an update indicating all three are progressing well. All with better prognosis than initially indicated.
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Old 19th Jul 2018, 20:39
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Now that IS good news!
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Old 25th Jul 2018, 08:20
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Thanks for the update. It will be good catching up with them for a beer when they return.
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Old 25th Jul 2018, 08:30
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Still in induced comas but making progress I'm reliably informed. Fingers crossed everyone..
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Old 25th Jul 2018, 20:53
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Thanks for the update TBM-Legend. Hang in there boys!!
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Old 30th Jul 2018, 09:56
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Originally Posted by cooperplace
When things settle down, it would be great to hear about this; your perspective and experience would doubtless offer some useful lessons to many of us here.
Not one for war stories,
Too many variables with old types, engines, performance, but to me this looks like multiple issues, and that is not unusual with old aircraft out of long term storage. Official report will spell it out. The resulting arrival where all pax survived and only a jump seater and a ground victim died is nothing short of amazing, and a credit to Doug and Ross. Bon chance mes amis.
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Old 30th Jul 2018, 10:19
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Originally Posted by Overtheditch
Not one for war stories,
Too many variables with old types, engines, performance, but to me this looks like multiple issues, and that is not unusual with old aircraft out of long term storage. Official report will spell it out. The resulting arrival where all pax survived and only a jump seater and a ground victim died is nothing short of amazing, and a credit to Doug and Ross. Bon chance mes amis.
I’m certain I read a press release by the SA CAA stating although there were seriously injured persons in the building, the reports of a fatality were incorrect.
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Originally Posted by Overtheditch
Not one for war stories,
Too many variables with old types, engines, performance, but to me this looks like multiple issues, and that is not unusual with old aircraft out of long term storage. Official report will spell it out.
Why wait for the report. Tell us what you think.
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Out of line, Fathom.
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Originally Posted by Capn Bloggs
Out of line,.
My thoughts exactly!
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Originally Posted by roundsounds

I’m certain I read a press release by the SA CAA stating although there were seriously injured persons in the building, the reports of a fatality were incorrect.
Thanks roundsounds. Missed that one. An even better result.
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