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Old 18th Sep 2018, 06:48
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Originally Posted by A37575 View Post
The blind leading the blind..
That’s the way most flying schools have been operating for decades.
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Old 20th Sep 2018, 23:48
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BAe at Tamworth are planning a fly pass of 30 ct4's this morning from 11.00hrs to mark 27years of operations at Tamworth. Scene 26 in the air earlier in the week, was quite a sound .
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Old 27th Sep 2018, 01:22
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And the contract for training provider goes to L3 Aviation (UK) who have a base in Hamilton NZ. The question then arises as to how they will obtain an Australian AOC, what aircraft they will acquire and most importantly where are they going to get the instructors from?
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Old 27th Sep 2018, 01:42
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And the contract for training provider goes to L3 Aviation (UK) who have a base in Hamilton NZ. The question then arises as to how they will obtain an Australian AOC, what aircraft they will acquire and most importantly where are they going to get the instructors from?
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Old 27th Sep 2018, 02:01
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and most importantly where are they going to get the instructors from?
if you were an instructor wouldn't you go work at the school that could provide you with a seniority number at the biggest aviation business in the country?

If anyone will struggle to get instructors it won't be them.

And the biggest business is going to find it easiest to get the govt to approve 457 visas.
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Old 27th Sep 2018, 02:17
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Where does it say that the instructors will have a seniority number in Q ?? The instructors will work for the foreign contractor as far I can see. All smoke and mirrors, the amount of s*&t that is coming will be amusing to say the least.
P.S. hate to say I told you the winner over a month ago.
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Old 27th Sep 2018, 02:39
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Instructors given a qf Seniority number? hahaha no chance in hell of that happening.
They will either get their instructors from;
1. The large pool that were deemed not suitable to fly for qf/qf link due to their inability to decide which shape came next in the pattern sequence
*ironic that they'll be teaching the next QF generation OR

2. A poison berry (disguised as a carrot ) will be dangled from a sufficient height to suggest the "possibility" of future employment in the QF group. (after a long period of time.)
*Doubley ironic. These instructors would be considered for the qf group without the time restriction had they chosen to work somewhere else AND they are training the very people in such quantities that will likely prevent them from obtaining a position with the qf group.

Maybe im just getting cynical in my old age
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Old 27th Sep 2018, 02:44
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https://www.reuters.com/article/qant...-idUSL4N1WD0TH
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Old 27th Sep 2018, 06:23
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Should be some interesting issues with radio frequencies and traffic separation from Toowoomba. The latest VTC doesn't show an ILS at Oakey any more? And Brymaroo NDB gone? I've been out of aviation for a while....
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Old 27th Sep 2018, 07:04
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ILS is still there but Brymaroo is gone.

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Old 27th Sep 2018, 22:19
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A list as long as your arm!

Here's a link to the full interview that Elysse Morgan from ABC program 'The Business' did with AJ yesterday at Wellcamp Airport.

The Business - ABC News

Pilot shortage to drive pilot salaries higher? Not at QF according to AJ. This won't come as a surprise to most but here is some direct insight.

AJ: "...we've got a list as long as your arm."
Elysse: "So no pay rises for Qantas pilots then?"
AJ: "Qantas pilots are really well paid! You know an A380 Captain gets paid around $400,000 a year! A starting pilot at QantasLink gets paid $80,000 a year. I think they're good salaries and a lot of people out there, a lot of your viewers, would love to have one of those jobs."

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Old 27th Sep 2018, 22:36
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Originally Posted by airspace alpha View Post
And the contract for training provider goes to L3 Aviation (UK) who have a base in Hamilton NZ. The question then arises as to how they will obtain an Australian AOC, what aircraft they will acquire and most importantly where are they going to get the instructors from?
where did you hear about L3 being the provider?
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Old 27th Sep 2018, 22:43
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Originally Posted by Kowolski View Post

where did you hear about L3 being the provider?
Here: The Business - ABC News

Jump to 2'50". Straight from AJ's mouth.

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Old 28th Sep 2018, 00:01
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Originally Posted by Kowolski View Post


where did you hear about L3 being the provider?
It’s also in Qantas’ press release available here.
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Old 28th Sep 2018, 01:53
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Originally Posted by Popgun View Post
AJ: "...we've got a list as long as your arm."
Elysse: "So no pay rises for Qantas pilots then?"
AJ: "Qantas pilots are really well paid! You know an A380 Captain gets paid around $400,000 a year! A starting pilot at QantasLink gets paid $80,000 a year. I think they're good salaries and a lot of people out there, a lot of your viewers, would love to have one of those jobs."
So he obviously has no interest in attracting the BEST? May be getting them at the moment, but that’s only because of years of no recruitment and a large pool of pilots who want to work for QF in that time.

But once that pool has dried up.....?
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Old 28th Sep 2018, 03:13
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So he obviously has no interest in attracting the BEST? May be getting them at the moment, but that’s only because of years of no recruitment and a large pool of pilots who want to work for QF in that time.

But once that pool has dried up.....?

Given it is contract season for both lists of pilots in Qantas mainline, Mr Joyce won't let an opportunity pass to soften them up a bit more. If the pilots, through their collective assocations don't lever a generational shortage to improve their conditions, one may be entitled to ask why not?

Whether the 'list' of interest includes fourteen year old school kids 'with aspirations' was not disclosed. The reality the list' may be nowhere as strong as little Napoleon would want people to believe.
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Old 28th Sep 2018, 04:05
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Of the 18000 that have an expression of interest, 16% are female.

Will be interesting to see what percentage of the first intake will be female...

”Addressing the gendar imbalance is the key to meeting market demand for pilots”

With approx 15120 of the 18000 applicants being male, I beg to differ.
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Old 28th Sep 2018, 04:38
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This EOI number is akin to “the fish I caught was this biiigggg”. It grows every time it’s quoted. Ultimately all it is is an email address typed into a box with the submit button hit, close to worthless.
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Old 18th Oct 2018, 08:46
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Yes, the instructors will be an issue - where will they come from (other than retirement?)

But the more interesting question, is where will the Engineers come from to maintain the 40 aircraft they have planned?????
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