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So you need a new fleet Leigh?

Old 3rd May 2018, 23:20
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You all seem worried about pilots to fly them, how about engineers to fix them? Qantas hasn't had a decent sized apprentice engineering intake in over 10 years. And your average LAME is in their late 50s. Perfect storm coming.
The problems inherent in Qantas supply chain issues are obvious when focus is directed on fleet metrics.
The more one looks, from aircraft to crewing to maintenance all of the support structures necessary to ensure the product delivery are fractured.
From a strategic management perspective it is testament to failure to insulate the business. A failure of the current management and the board oversight. As we said before 'managing' rocks is something far easier than the dynamic of airlines.

The inability of the training system to cope with an influx of a whole six aircraft is indicative of a systemic core issue of structure. That is a fiduciary responsibility of Executive management. Unfortunately with an ever compliant media this goes unnoticed.

Qantas need a new fleet. With that new fleet additional required Cap ex, must also be expended into the structures that support fleet. All long ago deferred.
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Old 4th May 2018, 00:19
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If talking about gas gusslers why dont they get rid of the loss making A380, use too much fuel, fly way to slow and too expensive to maintain....a model QF Management Garth Evans recently stated wish he could trade them for something else like A350s
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Old 4th May 2018, 01:37
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There's been no news of what has happened to our deposits of the 8 cancelled A380s. I always thought those A380 options may be converted to A320s but perhaps a few A350ULR's may be on the cards instead?

Certainly the ability to 'common fleet flying' (or whatever the current term is) between the A350 and the A330 is getting some attention.
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Reliable source suggests Jetstar Pacific’s new A320’s are not coming from the large Qantas order of 99 A320’s as they have been able to source better pricing.
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Old 4th May 2018, 07:56
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Certainly the ability to 'common fleet flying' (or whatever the current term is) between the A350 and the A330 is getting some attention.
I’m sure you meant B787/777 common fleet flying mate?
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Nah probably meant 330neo/350 to keep the flt decks more similar
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Old 4th May 2018, 08:29
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I’m sure you meant B787/777 common fleet flying mate?

Lol. Sadly I’m not up to speed on the Boeing fleet capabilities so much these days. Can you do common fleet flying between the 787 and the 777X? Is that on the table as an option from Boeing? I know they’re the same endorsement on the license but not sure beyond that.

i know the CX crew are flying the ‘classic’ A330 and the A350 as part of a common fleet. Not sure if they can do that in the same tour of duty though.

Either way, some interesting efficiencies for Qantas if they can CFF for both the 777X and the A350 with aircraft types already in their fleet.
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[QUOTE]
i know the CX crew are flying the ‘classic’ A330 and the A350 as part of a common fleet. Not sure if they can do that in the same tour of duty though/QUOTE]

No restrictions on flying both types in a single duty. Rarely happens in practice though.
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Old 4th May 2018, 09:55
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You all seem worried about pilots to fly them, how about engineers to fix them? Qantas hasn't had a decent sized apprentice engineering intake in over 10 years. And your average LAME is in their late 50s. Perfect storm coming.
No worries covered with the 'A' licence.
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Old 4th May 2018, 10:33
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[QUOTE=Veruka Salt;10137700]
i know the CX crew are flying the ‘classic’ A330 and the A350 as part of a common fleet. Not sure if they can do that in the same tour of duty though/QUOTE]

No restrictions on flying both types in a single duty. Rarely happens in practice though.
How does it go? Same fundamentals I guess but the 350 is pretty different.
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Old 4th May 2018, 10:57
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Thanks Veruka. Had heard both versions so wasn’t sure.
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Old 4th May 2018, 11:00
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Air NZ cross-crew 777/787 currently, if the commonality is there, surely there wouldn't be much in a 787/777X common fleet?
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Old 4th May 2018, 11:30
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Originally Posted by Keg View Post
Lol. Sadly I’m not up to speed on the Boeing fleet capabilities so much these days. Can you do common fleet flying between the 787 and the 777X? Is that on the table as an option from Boeing? I know they’re the same endorsement on the license but not sure beyond that.
Yes same endorsement. I’ve been led to believe both can be flown, just like the Airbus types.

Although I’ve never flown a 777 they are procedurally identical, apparently. As an example, on the 787 the hydraulic pumps are turned on in a particular sequence. For the 787 it makes no difference and they could be turned on in any sequence, but the sequence is mandated to comply with the common endorsement as it matters in the 777 which order they’re switched on.
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Old 4th May 2018, 12:02
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Yes same endorsement. I’ve been led to believe both can be flown, just like the Airbus types.

Although I’ve never flown a 777 they are procedurally identical, apparently. As an example, on the 787 the hydraulic pumps are turned on in a particular sequence. For the 787 it makes no difference and they could be turned on in any sequence, but the sequence is mandated to comply with the common endorsement as it matters in the 777 which order they’re switched on.

That’s not actually correct, it’s something that “became a thing” after someone in the check department, that hadn’t flown a 777, read the FCOM and decided the leave his mark.

Hydraulic pumps....R, C1,C2, L...All ON.

So then rather than start on the right and turn all pumps on in a Right to Left motion, the Atom was split and we had to go R, C1, C2 ,L. The logic of the system chose which Centre pump it wanted to use.

The reason given for this was that “it caused a fault on the 777”, but none of the 777 experienced pilots or the Boeing instructors that did our endorsement had ever heard of this.
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Old 4th May 2018, 12:41
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Originally Posted by romeocharlie View Post
Air NZ cross-crew 777/787 currently.

No they don't. 2 week course to transfer 787 to 777.
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Old 4th May 2018, 12:50
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I believe Etihad pilots fly both, but only one type in a month.
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Old 4th May 2018, 12:56
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That’s not actually correct, it’s something that “became a thing” after someone in the check department, that hadn’t flown a 777, read the FCOM and decided the leave his mark.

Hydraulic pumps....R, C1,C2, L...All ON.

So then rather than start on the right and turn all pumps on in a Right to Left motion, the Atom was split and we had to go R, C1, C2 ,L. The logic of the system chose which Centre pump it wanted to use.

The reason given for this was that “it caused a fault on the 777”, but none of the 777 experienced pilots or the Boeing instructors that did our endorsement had ever heard of this.
OK. That doesn’t surprise me.

As I said I’d never flown the 777 and just going by what I was told during conversion by those that had probably not flown the 777 either.

Some of our colleagues like to make things more difficult than they need to be.
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Old 4th May 2018, 23:07
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2 week course to transfer 787 to 777.
once Qantas LH get their hands on it and ‘QANTAS-IFY it , more like 6 months. 🙄
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Old 5th May 2018, 00:58
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I believe Etihad pilots fly both, but only one type in a month.
what a load of bollocks!
im operating the 777 up to Manchester in the morning and the 787 back the following evening. Been this way since MFF was introduced.
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Old 5th May 2018, 01:29
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Originally Posted by bangbounceboeing View Post

what a load of bollocks!
im operating the 777 up to Manchester in the morning and the 787 back the following evening. Been this way since MFF was introduced.
Ok, I stand corrected, I was told that by a mate who is a 777/787 skipper there, but it was a long time ago, sorry.

Can you shed light on the Hydraulic pump thing? Is there a fault if you go R, C2, C1, L when turning on?
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