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Old 13th Dec 2017, 08:29
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Customer in store happened to mention the transfer is coming along with the airframes to initially do the all day waits at mine sites before the afternoon return to Perth. Has Network achieved their new EBA yet?
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Old 13th Dec 2017, 08:31
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Give Network an A320, spook 1000 Qantas pilots.

Same old!
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Old 14th Dec 2017, 23:16
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Maybe - just maybe - there is a commercial reason for them to take A320s? I mean, the chief of Network also introduced them to Skywest when they were servicing the same major client. And maybe, just maybe, it will only be a couple of old, cheap frames that Network operates, mostly on charter. After all, in NW conditions the A320 outperforms the 738.
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Old 14th Dec 2017, 23:24
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They’ll be flying the netlink operation before you can say bugger. Shortly after that theyll be taking over 717 ops bit by bit.

If I were on the street right now, I’d be going to network.
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Originally Posted by Rated De
Give Network an A320, spook 1000 Qantas pilots.

Same old!
Don't ya love it when one outfit dominates the market like that.
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ebt, the "Chief" of Network is ex QF not XR.
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Old 15th Dec 2017, 01:31
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Chief as in CEO, not CP, my friend
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Old 16th Dec 2017, 05:26
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Well I guess HD is technically still CEO although not for much longer
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Old 19th Dec 2017, 06:16
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Originally Posted by ebt
Maybe - just maybe - there is a commercial reason for them to take A320s? I mean, the chief of Network also introduced them to Skywest when they were servicing the same major client. And maybe, just maybe, it will only be a couple of old, cheap frames that Network operates, mostly on charter. After all, in NW conditions the A320 outperforms the 738.
The big advantage of the A320 in WA is the fact that they have lower pressure tyre options than the 738. Some of these mine strips are quite low strength pavement.
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Old 17th May 2018, 23:51
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https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/tou...-ng-b88839805z

QANTAS has slashed the cost of airfares to Broome as part of a deal with the McGowan Government aimed at luring West Australians away from Bali.

Under the arrangement, Qantas will use a 180-seat Airbus A320, which normally runs fly-in, fly-out services to mine sites but is idle from Friday to Sunday. It will operate daily flights to Broome with a $179 one-way fare in the off season, and $199 in peak season.

While the State Government would not provide details of the deal it is contributing to the low fares through Tourism WA support. The fare deal is in response to government pressure for industry partners to offer competitive airfares on intrastate routes to counter the flood of WA holiday makers to Bali.

More than 400,000 WA residents fly to Bali each year.

Over the 12-month trial, 29,400 discounted seats will be available.

Qantas 787 breaks another speed record

The initiative will offer two ranges of airfare discounts, when booked either 60 days or 45 days before travel.

Tourism Minister Paul Papalia said this was “easily the biggest thing done for Broome by any State government.”

“The aim of this initiative is to provide affordable fares throughout the year to help stimulate leisure travel to Broome and the Kimberley,” he said.

“We hope it will encourage people to escape to Broome for a weekend getaway, or vice versa, or to plan a longer one to two-week stay and it is a higher quality offering than Bali.”

Mr Papalia said that he wanted to see Broome businesses respond and work with Qantas to offer innovative packages.

“Qantas has been responded incredibly well to the cost of travel to make this happen and I would encourage other airlines to follow,” he said.

Premier Mark McGowan said “providing more affordable flights for residents and tourists is a key part of our new tourism two-year action plan, to make sure people from Perth, interstate and overseas have the opportunity to access all of what our great State has to offer.”

Qantas group executive of government, industry and international affairs Andrew Parker said"this is a new opportunity that makes good use of aircraft that would otherwise be on the ground over the weekend.”

“It will help us deliver great value for travellers, stimulating tourism and driving new business opportunities for Broome and the Kimberley region,” said Mr Parker
More work ....
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Old 17th May 2018, 23:55
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Originally Posted by GoldCoastTobacconist
Or less work, depending on which a/c you fly...
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Old 18th May 2018, 01:49
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Originally Posted by Street garbage
Or less work, depending on which a/c you fly...
Completely, exactly as designed. Qantas households in the west discussing the threat. We suggested was the case on the other thread; rapid expansion of entity (despite the crew shortage). Is it contract season?

Even heard a story of 'comfort' offered by the union effectively leaving the door ajar for Qantas to further leverage the 'subsidiaries'
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Old 19th May 2018, 02:20
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Will never happen. However, if it did it would create the biggest cluster f#$k any of us have ever seen.

Simplifying all fleets and lists makes sense but there are far too many separate interests.

Hypothetically if it were to happen. Have one list based on all pilots DOJ in the group. The musical chairs would be dabilitating! Training for 5+ years to re arrange the list.
Then, again IMO, 3 levels of pay.
1. Regional Turboprop
2. Domestic narrow body (B717, F100, A320, B738)
3. International wide body (B788/9, A332/3, B747, A380)

3 levels, ensures pilots STAY on type and aren't financially dis-advantaged for doing so. This saves massive retraining costs as pilots move up the seniority list now encompassing 4000+ staff.

But again, the chances? Rather than divide and conquer you control the pilot group as one entity. You 3 EBAs, 3 AOCs, 3 of MGMT rather than how many at present?

Just my thoughts.

Pay idea sounds resonable however DOJ would create problems ie someone on narrow body probably wouldn’t want to be kicked back to turbo prop...

Maybe pay levels like you mention and then DOJ to work out the numbers on that pay level...

where was that popcorn 😆
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Old 19th May 2018, 03:20
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DOJ doesn’t need to cause a problem, just grandfather existing seat/fleet positions so no one is displaced. Training freeze of 5 years except where the company needs to waive it would stop multiple type ratings over short periods of time
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Old 19th May 2018, 03:51
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1. Regional Turboprop
2. Domestic narrow body (B717, F100, A320, B738)
3. International wide body (B788/9, A332/3, B747, A380)
Domestic wide body and international narrow body?
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Old 19th May 2018, 04:04
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They haven't managed to merge the 2 lists of EAA and Sunnies...let alone the whole group operation!!
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