Qantas to get 737 MAX and '797'?
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Qantas to get 737 MAX and '797'?
Latest from the QF junket Seattle, AusBT reports QF is looking to the Boeing 737 MAX (no sub-type specified) and the middle-of-market 'Boeing 797' for domestic flights with the 797 also geared towards Asian routes,. In other words, 797 would replace the A330s.
Joyce also says he's no longer planning to run Boeing 789s on domestic routes, this was the plan from a few years back, which has to call into question if Qantas will ever make good on its 45 'orders and deliveries' for the 787 (almost certainly not!).
https://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-eyes...domestic-fleet
Joyce also says he's no longer planning to run Boeing 789s on domestic routes, this was the plan from a few years back, which has to call into question if Qantas will ever make good on its 45 'orders and deliveries' for the 787 (almost certainly not!).
https://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-eyes...domestic-fleet
To replace 330 Asian routes? If only Qantas had an aeroplane on order that was the same dimensions as an a330-300 like a 787-9 eh
Re the 73 max; is it still like the old 737s systems/mechanically? Or just shiney screens and calling it good 
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Is that really correct? From a little further down the article:
The bold is a direct quote saying that no decision has been made, the italics is speculation from the journalist.
Qantas CEO Alan Joyce says the airline "we will do a competition between the Airbus A320neo and Boeing 737 MAX to replace our Boeing 737 fleet probably within the next few years", although the airline's long-standing investment in the Boeing 737 makes Airbus a rank outsider in the pageant.
What happened to the massive A320 order made for Qantas/Jetstar Asia?
Not sure why you would be considering the 737 Max over the 320 NEO. The Neo is a far superior aircraft in many respects let alone cabin comfort and size.
Not sure why you would be considering the 737 Max over the 320 NEO. The Neo is a far superior aircraft in many respects let alone cabin comfort and size.
I'm not so sure about that, I've traveled extensively on both and frankly I find the A320 whiny and uncomfortable. For me however, one of the advantages of the A320 is the ability to carry ULDs... it would mean there would be no need to retrofit magic carpet in the holds and make for quicker turnarounds (as long as if they choose the A320neo they don't do the monumentally stupid thing Ansett did and pay more to have the IHS taken out...!!!) and provided the A330 work is absorbed by a newer widebody and to some extent, the 320, then there shoudn't be a massive need for additional GSE at key airports.
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Apparently the containers are not as awesome as they appear at first glance, as the weight and bulk of the containers take a lot of room up and reduce the amount of freight both weight and volume wise that can be carried. For carriers that don't carry much freight, not such a big issue, but apparently you can squeeze in a heap more bags/freight into a non container bus.
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Qantas in Seattle to take delivery of shiny new jet. Asked about future 737 replacement, of course the CEO is going to talk up the many Boeing options. Across the Atlantic Airbus will have heard that loud and clear. Someone buried deep in 'the campus' is no doubt is working the numbers on the various options and updating the spreadsheet on a month by month basis but Joyce's comments are gamesmanship and the report by Ausbt is simply filling space. I suspect a decision is not even close to being made et alone announced.
I understand that a full compliment of containers is around 800kg just in the containers.
The containers themselves are nowhere near 800kg for a full fit. The 'generic' weight of an AKH container is 80kg but in reality, some are canvas, some are Aluminium so when they're weighed they're usually less than half that amount.
Apparently the containers are not as awesome as they appear at first glance, as the weight and bulk of the containers take a lot of room up and reduce the amount of freight both weight and volume wise that can be carried. For carriers that don't carry much freight, not such a big issue, but apparently you can squeeze in a heap more bags/freight into a non container bus.
(BTW that's a FLA).
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On manpower I think QF have 1 or 2 additional ground staff than Virgin for a 737. I think jetstar can get away with only 3 staff on a turn and no pushback driver.
Bag chuckers aren’t really the bottleneck in a turn unless there’s a lot of cargo. Usually getting the passengers off and on is.
Containers drastically reduce the number of hands a bag goes through per movement from 3 down to 1.
No idea about weight but probably significant. JQ I think put 5 (capacity 7) on every flight to ensure there are enough around the network. Each weighing 60-80kg.