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Old 5th Aug 2017, 06:14
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Err, no. Long haul from Asia to Europe.
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Old 5th Aug 2017, 06:32
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If it aint boeing
Its a boeing circle jerk
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Old 5th Aug 2017, 19:19
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The A350 with Qatar is a duck and you won't see one of their's out in Aust until they launch the WXB1000. Their current models (900's) are burning 2+tonnes more per hour than their B773's while carrying much less. The WXB1000 hopes to be comparable. Let's see what improvements in the engines they make.
Complete bollocks. As someone currently flying the 350, and employed by a major operator of the 777ER; the 350 cruises at M0.85 (LRC ~ CI60), & blocks ~ 6T/hr. By comparison, the 777ER gets along at M0.83 & blocks ~ 8.0T/hr. The 777ER will carry a higher payload on a 12hr sector, but beyond about 14 hours, the 350-900 carries a higher payload than the 777 due much lower fuel burn & 30T lighter basic weight. No idea (yet) about the 350-1000.

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Old 6th Aug 2017, 02:45
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Originally Posted by BuzzBox View Post
Ok, but was he kicking and screaming about fuel consumption? He has certainly made a lot of noise about delivery delays and cabin quality control issues, as have other airlines, but there are no media reports about performance issues.

Yes he was at the start specifically about the fuel consumption. It was no better than the A330 for the first few months. I don't fly the plane but I know that it is performing as expected now.
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Old 6th Aug 2017, 09:58
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Comparison between 3 x Hong Kong to Melbourne flights over the past 24 hours - 1 in an A350, 1 in a 777, and 1 in an A330:

A350: Flt time 8:25. Trip fuel 51.4T
777: Flt time 8:35. Trip fuel 67.7T
A330: Flt time 9:01. Trip fuel 55.2T

There have been disgraceful cabin quality issues with the A350, but it's performance has been outstanding.

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Old 6th Aug 2017, 10:32
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Old 6th Aug 2017, 12:21
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Yes Maggot, "snap!" Any idea of payloads on those HKG runs (revenue generated)?
Great feedback and stats all around thanks
No doubt new aircraft take time to "bed-in" especially the engines, as realtime data is collected and a company's favoured cost index is found.
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Old 6th Aug 2017, 17:01
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Since you ask ....

1. A350 payload was 50.7T
2. 777 payload was 56.3T
3. A330 payload was 39.7T

None of them were carrying their max payload.
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