JETGO from Wollongong
WTF? Why are Australians always so pathetically unsupportive of innovation and people with at least the gumption to give stuff a go?
Take this miserable gem from Papa Jo: This mob would have as much hope affiliating themselves with the local McDonald's let alone Qantas or Virgin.
Why would anyone codeshare with them? Just let them go broke instead and the rest is history. Worked well for Air Australia.
Unbelievable.
Take this miserable gem from Papa Jo: This mob would have as much hope affiliating themselves with the local McDonald's let alone Qantas or Virgin.
Why would anyone codeshare with them? Just let them go broke instead and the rest is history. Worked well for Air Australia.
Unbelievable.
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I'll certainly be travelling with them. You can spend 30mins just trying to get into SYD these days by car, and that frustration is before the exorbitant parking costs kick-in.
Good luck Jetgo!
Good luck Jetgo!
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Fairly pessimistic outlook criticalmass...
With Wollongong being Australias 10th largest city and 80km from KSA or well over a 1 hour 15 minute drive, it has amazed me that the likes of REX have not jumped at Albion Park
Gold Coast and Sunshine Coast are both 100k from Brisbane and just 1 hour away and although they are touristy destinations, each support huge passenger numbers
Even Wellcamp is supporting multi-daily flights to Melbourne and Sydney
I think Jetgo will have great success on both routes with exactly the right sized aircraft for the routes and will likely end up 2-3 times daily on each route
Here's why
1) Those getting international connections will likely save money, even with the JetGo fare as there is greater discounting at Brisbane and Melbourne than Sydney
2) Those traveling from the Gong to Brisbane or Melbourne have a greater chance of making it to the airport on time at Albion Park
3) Albion park avoids the F6 M1 and often hours of fun and games and fog etc
JetGo just needs to keep in mind 2 things
1) keep flights on time
2) keep fares reasonable
The rest will take care of itself
With Wollongong being Australias 10th largest city and 80km from KSA or well over a 1 hour 15 minute drive, it has amazed me that the likes of REX have not jumped at Albion Park
Gold Coast and Sunshine Coast are both 100k from Brisbane and just 1 hour away and although they are touristy destinations, each support huge passenger numbers
Even Wellcamp is supporting multi-daily flights to Melbourne and Sydney
I think Jetgo will have great success on both routes with exactly the right sized aircraft for the routes and will likely end up 2-3 times daily on each route
Here's why
1) Those getting international connections will likely save money, even with the JetGo fare as there is greater discounting at Brisbane and Melbourne than Sydney
2) Those traveling from the Gong to Brisbane or Melbourne have a greater chance of making it to the airport on time at Albion Park
3) Albion park avoids the F6 M1 and often hours of fun and games and fog etc
JetGo just needs to keep in mind 2 things
1) keep flights on time
2) keep fares reasonable
The rest will take care of itself
Don't think you'll be able to thru connect bags eg. flying Gong to MEL then international.
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I think Qlink pulled the pin as they were retiring the aircraft, but also as Bluescope reduced its flying due to losing money.
International connections won't help looking st Melbourne as they fly to Essendon not Tullamarine, not sure how the times work out in Brisbane.
As much as it tries Wollongong is not a major tourist destination such as the Gold Coast. I'm sure Jetgo will be looking at Wollongong major industries to fill seats, such as the Uni and bluescope,though many of those users like frequency and lounge access.
I do wish the luck and I hope success but I agree that I think in 12 months they will be Jetgone
International connections won't help looking st Melbourne as they fly to Essendon not Tullamarine, not sure how the times work out in Brisbane.
As much as it tries Wollongong is not a major tourist destination such as the Gold Coast. I'm sure Jetgo will be looking at Wollongong major industries to fill seats, such as the Uni and bluescope,though many of those users like frequency and lounge access.
I do wish the luck and I hope success but I agree that I think in 12 months they will be Jetgone
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BNE-OOL is also all motorway at 100-110k, outside peak hour it is legally doable in just over 1 hour
Gong-KSA is a lesser distance, however, about 1/2 the journey is main roads that average about 30km per hour, thus the extra travel time up to 90 minutes outside peak
With a local option for Wollongong, it makes no sense to drive 90 minutes each way, then pay ridiculously high parking charges and then deal with KSA to save $30-$50 a seat and on top of that run the risk of one accident or breakdown having you miss your flight
If JetGo were to scheduled their flights at 7.00am-10.00am or 4.00pm-7.00pm this would make them even more attractive as traveling to and from Sydney at these times would be at least a 2 hour trip
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BNE - MCY is all motorway at 100-110k, outside peak hour it is legally doable in just over 1 hour
BNE-OOL is also all motorway at 100-110k, outside peak hour it is legally doable in just over 1 hour
Gong-KSA is a lesser distance, however, about 1/2 the journey is main roads that average about 30km per hour, thus the extra travel time up to 90 minutes outside peak
With a local option for Wollongong, it makes no sense to drive 90 minutes each way, then pay ridiculously high parking charges and then deal with KSA to save $30-$50 a seat and on top of that run the risk of one accident or breakdown having you miss your flight
If JetGo were to scheduled their flights at 7.00am-10.00am or 4.00pm-7.00pm this would make them even more attractive as traveling to and from Sydney at these times would be at least a 2 hour trip
BNE-OOL is also all motorway at 100-110k, outside peak hour it is legally doable in just over 1 hour
Gong-KSA is a lesser distance, however, about 1/2 the journey is main roads that average about 30km per hour, thus the extra travel time up to 90 minutes outside peak
With a local option for Wollongong, it makes no sense to drive 90 minutes each way, then pay ridiculously high parking charges and then deal with KSA to save $30-$50 a seat and on top of that run the risk of one accident or breakdown having you miss your flight
If JetGo were to scheduled their flights at 7.00am-10.00am or 4.00pm-7.00pm this would make them even more attractive as traveling to and from Sydney at these times would be at least a 2 hour trip
9/10 trips are 1 hour 20 minutes or less
Depending where in Brisbane you start from, you can do the trip in under 1 hour from the north side on a good day
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are you serious ? eg. There's a major glut of units in Brisbane. Many people are now buying heavily reduced units rather than houses, which is driving down the price of houses.
Lots of units hitting rental market, also means drop in yields for houses & units. A drop in yields basically means the houses/units are worth less to an investor, who bases the purchase price on what ROI they can get. Same thing to a lesser extent in SYD & MEL. If you believe the rubbish in the media, you're a bit silly. Remember the media earns many billions a year in real estate advertising & the media will try & talk it up, even when interest rateas rise a lot.
We buy & sell a lot of real estate. Last 12 months sold a lot. Now making many rough offers & some are being accepted. Start at 50% of asking price.
Bank repos are increasing as well.
Lots of units hitting rental market, also means drop in yields for houses & units. A drop in yields basically means the houses/units are worth less to an investor, who bases the purchase price on what ROI they can get. Same thing to a lesser extent in SYD & MEL. If you believe the rubbish in the media, you're a bit silly. Remember the media earns many billions a year in real estate advertising & the media will try & talk it up, even when interest rateas rise a lot.
We buy & sell a lot of real estate. Last 12 months sold a lot. Now making many rough offers & some are being accepted. Start at 50% of asking price.
Bank repos are increasing as well.
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are you serious ? eg. There's a major glut of units in Brisbane. Many people are now buying heavily reduced units rather than houses, which is driving down the price of houses.
Lots of units hitting rental market, also means drop in yields for houses & units. A drop in yields basically means the houses/units are worth less to an investor, who bases the purchase price on what ROI they can get. Same thing to a lesser extent in SYD & MEL. If you believe the rubbish in the media, you're a bit silly. Remember the media earns many billions a year in real estate advertising & the media will try & talk it up, even when interest rateas rise a lot.
We buy & sell a lot of real estate. Last 12 months sold a lot. Now making many rough offers & some are being accepted. Start at 50% of asking price.
Bank repos are increasing as well.
Lots of units hitting rental market, also means drop in yields for houses & units. A drop in yields basically means the houses/units are worth less to an investor, who bases the purchase price on what ROI they can get. Same thing to a lesser extent in SYD & MEL. If you believe the rubbish in the media, you're a bit silly. Remember the media earns many billions a year in real estate advertising & the media will try & talk it up, even when interest rateas rise a lot.
We buy & sell a lot of real estate. Last 12 months sold a lot. Now making many rough offers & some are being accepted. Start at 50% of asking price.
Bank repos are increasing as well.
A bit of a glut is hardly the world falling apart. Immigration will sort it out in good time.
The houses I am looking at have increased in price over the last year, quality wins in the end.
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Anyone who has bought a unit in the centre of Brissie in the last few years needed their head read, looming oversupply was pretty obvious.
A bit of a glut is hardly the world falling apart. Immigration will sort it out in good time.
The houses I am looking at have increased in price over the last year, quality wins in the end.
A bit of a glut is hardly the world falling apart. Immigration will sort it out in good time.
The houses I am looking at have increased in price over the last year, quality wins in the end.
Standard real estate salesmen line ...
your house will sell for $2m
Oh the market has tightened/crashed, you'll have to take $1.5m now, (quickly so I get my huge commission)
Banks are tightening up/rental yields are dropping/Chinese tightening up on funny money leaving the country. I'd say we're in for a massive recession.
It seems anyone under about 45 years of age, can't remember the last recession.
The worse places to buy right now are SYD, MEL, BNE in that order, unless you can buy at the right price. Anyone who pays asking price now is a fool & will get burnt badly.
I'd say we're in for a massive recession.
Nocookies | The Australian
They do not raise rates as we enter a recession do they?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-1...inutes/8719438
Dollar surges as the WORLD but not BNEA320, factors in rate rises.
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Pfft, what would the RBA know? Travel agents are the ones who really have their finger on the pulse.
BNEA320/XPT, is it difficult to keep track of which username you're posting under?
BNEA320/XPT, is it difficult to keep track of which username you're posting under?
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Yes, you KEEP saying it on EVERY thread.
Nocookies | The Australian
They do not raise rates as we enter a recession do they?
Reserve Bank minutes: 'Neutral' interest rate rate around 3.5pc, Australian dollar surges - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
Dollar surges as the WORLD but not BNEA320, factors in rate rises.
Nocookies | The Australian
They do not raise rates as we enter a recession do they?
Reserve Bank minutes: 'Neutral' interest rate rate around 3.5pc, Australian dollar surges - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
Dollar surges as the WORLD but not BNEA320, factors in rate rises.
Its started. If you can't see it, you read too much crap in the newspapers who are trying to sell stuff, like overpriced real estate. musical chairs !!! Just don't be the last mug punter left or you'll be stuffed.
Have you read about all the real estate that didn't sell & vendors pulled it off the market. NO, cos the media doesn't want to report about that.
Think about this. Units sold off the plan for $1m with 10% deposit. On completion they are worth $800k or less probably. No one would be stupid enough to finalise on those figures, so they'll walk & there will be many developments like this in SYD, MEL & already in BNE & a glut of units, with all the developers taking anything they can get. (ok they got to keep the 10% deposit, but they will have to sell them at BIG discounts to move them)
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Aviation is my new game.
Jetgo are flying an Embraer jet down to land at YWOL today for a media event. Winds are forecast westerly 15 to 25 kts. Not sure what the maximum crosswind for their jets is, but they will only be able to use runway 34/16 as they are overweight for 26/08.
Could be an interesting landing, or if it's too difficult, a few attempts and then head for home?
Could be an interesting landing, or if it's too difficult, a few attempts and then head for home?
wow you don;t get it do you ? Have you ever been through a recession? We have to have one. Growth has to end.
Yes.
No.
Possibly.
You keep using apartments sales and a general real estate downturn to argue we are in recession. We are not. We also do not look like heading that way at present.
Do YOU get what a recession is?
For what it's worth, the only times I have seen airline hiring like this was 1989 (recession we had to have followed), 2001 (tech wreck recession+Sept 11 + Ansett folowed), 2008 (GFC followed).
...No pattern there.
...No pattern there.
