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Old 8th Jul 2017, 10:30
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Originally Posted by airdualbleedfault
Passenger said a turbine blade came off, did they google that?
WTF would a passenger know they all make it out to be 100x worse to the media.
Interview 50 pax and get 50 versions
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Old 8th Jul 2017, 10:32
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Originally Posted by 0ttoL
Video from onboard shows a severe vibration.
That says to me that the engine wasn't shut down.
Why would the crew continue to run an engine with that vibration?
I realise that 2 is better than 1 but the vibration could cause other damage?
An official report says the Capt shut down the engine just after it happened but a source says the nose cone was pushed over and with wind milling effect it was off balance
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Old 8th Jul 2017, 10:35
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Originally Posted by Capt Basil Brush
Anyone seen the Flightradar24 track? They must have been not far from Learmonth if they were an hour or so into the flight.
ETOPS 180min PERTH 90min saves the company a lot of $$$ to bring it back to Perth. No pax transfer no crew engine transfer
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Old 8th Jul 2017, 10:57
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Originally Posted by pax2908
From that article - "[Crew] said 'I hope you all say a prayer, I'll be saying a prayer too".
Wow ... is that a standard thing to say to calm people ?
A British Airways Capt once said "Ladies & Gentlemen we have a slight problem we've lost all 4 engines and we are working on rectifying the sitauation as soon ass possible thank you"
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Old 9th Jul 2017, 10:47
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Missing blade

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WTF would a passenger know they all make it out to be 100x worse to the media.
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I was a passenger. Before we disembarked the captain stated that a blade had come off the number 1 engine and invited us to take a look from the window inside the terminal.

I recently heard it unofficially that the blade was ingested and did quite a lot of damage including destroying the oil cooler.
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Old 9th Jul 2017, 12:01
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Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer
And????
No AND about it. I was simply describing what I was looking at as I waited to board my flight.

Seems like you read a bit more into it.

You have no idea.
Actually, I have a pretty good idea.
But thanks for your comprehensive contribution anyway.

There was an engine next to the aircraft but I suspect it was the damaged unit.
It was a bit hard to distinguish through the p.....ing rain.

At least Learmonth weather would have been kinder.
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Old 9th Jul 2017, 17:33
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Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer
And????

I've dealt with a number of AOG recoveries for engine incidents. Two weeks plus is not unusual.

You have no idea.
Our mob normally will do an A330 swap in under 8 hours. For an AOG situation the tools and engine arrive together on the same aircraft.

Being an LCC it would not surprise me that they don't have a spare engine which is the real delay.

Another issue sometimes is no main deck loader, most airports have loaders that do under floor loading, not all have loaders that can handle an engine from the main deck.
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Old 14th Jul 2017, 13:42
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PER outbound - 9M-XXE

For the record, it seems that the aircraft left Perth for Manila as flight D7688 on Tuesday evening 11 July and appears to be still in Manila.
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Old 19th Jul 2017, 03:36
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Back to work

And is now back in service, as of 17 July following 5 days in Manila.
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Old 15th Jan 2018, 23:36
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ATSB Report due for release - Jan 2018

ATSB indicating final report due for release within this month - Jan 2018

Revised date for report - April 2018

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Old 16th Jul 2018, 11:52
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Originally Posted by WingNut60
ATSB indicating final report due for release within this month - Jan 2018

Revised date for report - April 2018
Annnd now it says 4th quarter of 2018.

Meanwhile it's business as usual for Air Asia in Australia.

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Old 16th Jul 2018, 21:40
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Originally Posted by IAW
I won't believe this is real until a bonafide expert such as GT weighs in.

It's in his home turf after all.
Oh I don’t believe it at all because GT tweeted the other day that he’s changed his mind and would happily fly with Air Asia now because they’re in the process of doing IOSA... like everybody’s been waiting with baited breath for him to spew out his drivel about each airline. I’m sure people have been holding off on booking their holidays until they here from this ‘expert’.
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Originally Posted by tomcat264
A British Airways Capt once said "Ladies & Gentlemen we have a slight problem we've lost all 4 engines and we are working on rectifying the sitauation as soon ass possible thank you"
His name was Eric Moody a man of true understatement. Remember seeing an interview with him and his description of the the flight deck conversation on the 747-200. " Oh golly gosh I think we have lost all four" Maybe there may have been some expletives in there as well.

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Old 19th Dec 2018, 15:36
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Originally Posted by kirkc
Annnd now it says 4th quarter of 2018.

Meanwhile it's business as usual for Air Asia in Australia.
Is this normal? It now says expected completion of the investigation is the 1st quarter of 2019. They just keep pushing it out every 3 months.

What's to stop something like this happening again in the meantime? I'm wondering if someone at the ATSB has shares in Air Asia or something.
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Old 20th Dec 2018, 09:12
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Still waiting for this one. I know Mr Hood reads here if someone could give us an eta?

https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications...r/ao-2016-084/
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Old 24th Jun 2019, 02:44
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Originally Posted by kirkc
Is this normal? It now says expected completion of the investigation is the 1st quarter of 2019. They just keep pushing it out every 3 months.

What's to stop something like this happening again in the meantime? I'm wondering if someone at the ATSB has shares in Air Asia or something.
What a joke, they just push it out each quarter. ATSB now says the report is due out 4th quarter 2019...for a 'Serious Incident'...that occurred 2 years ago. Good thing aviation safety isan't important or anything.

Edit: If these clowns can't even provide an ETA accurate to within 18-24 months for the report how the hell can we have confidence in their ability to keep us all safe?

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Old 25th Jun 2019, 05:22
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You rely on them to keep you safe???? Really??? Good luck with that plan........
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Old 7th Oct 2019, 02:21
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Originally Posted by kirkc
Annnd now it says 4th quarter of 2018.

Meanwhile it's business as usual for Air Asia in Australia.
Annnd now it says 1st quarter of 2020.
Now 3-1/2 years for a report.

Originally Posted by kirkc
What a joke, they just push it out each quarter. ATSB now says the report is due out 4th quarter 2019...for a 'Serious Incident'...that occurred 2 years ago. Good thing aviation safety isan't important or anything.

Edit: If these clowns can't even provide an ETA accurate to within 18-24 months for the report how the hell can we have confidence in their ability to keep us all safe?
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Old 7th Oct 2019, 02:35
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I assume they have all but given up on this one as the due date was 2 Quarters ago.

https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications...r/ao-2016-084/

How hard can a separation review be? We are not dealing with the steam gauge technology of 70 years ago.

There must be some form of trade deals underway between Indo land and Malaysia. Wouldn’t want to get the government offside by slapping sanctions or bans on its carriers. I mean safety comes last right?
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Old 7th Oct 2019, 03:08
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Originally Posted by PoppaJo
How hard can a separation review be? We are not dealing with the steam gauge technology of 70 years ago
Writing a factual report (following a thorough investigation) is the easy bit.

Politics will be involved in getting agreement from Air Asia regarding the final report - they will be strongly against any detrimental findings against them. I imagine that getting agreement on the final report may even require money to change hands; Australian agencies don’t work like this. The delay is likely not the fault of the ATSB.
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