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Old 12th Jun 2017, 04:40
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Professor Jason Middleton, an aviation expert at the University of New South Wales in Sydney, told Reuters it appeared that the engine cowling had been ripped away forward of the main compressor blade.

“When one of these things happens you often don’t know how the damage began. It could have begun from loose screws,” he told the ABC.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-engine-casing
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Old 12th Jun 2017, 04:41
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Loose screws?

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Old 12th Jun 2017, 04:48
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Well he is an "aviation expert"!

give me strength....
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Old 12th Jun 2017, 04:49
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Definitely not saying "fooked", I also hear "engine 1 fault", which may have been shown on ECAM.
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Old 12th Jun 2017, 05:11
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Bird strike - but can that happen without fan damage?
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Old 12th Jun 2017, 06:25
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Originally Posted by Streamline1
Looks like something has hit the fan and been projected through the cowl as the inner acoustic lining is missing as well. Could it have been FOD after TO, like a drone?
Is that you Mr Xenophon?
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Old 12th Jun 2017, 06:56
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Just listened to the ATC audio and wondering why they initially were directed to maintain 5000 then asked by ATC to climb to 6000. If traffic separation is needed shouldn't ATC ask the other aircraft to maneuver rather than the one with one engine inopp, especially to climb?
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Old 12th Jun 2017, 07:41
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Originally Posted by ChrisJ800
Just listened to the ATC audio and wondering why they initially were directed to maintain 5000 then asked by ATC to climb to 6000. If traffic separation is needed shouldn't ATC ask the other aircraft to maneuver rather than the one with one engine inopp, especially to climb?
Unless you need to keep them above class G, or MSA, or out of a danger area etc.
Or maybe you can ask them so as to keep them above a SID or STAR
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Old 12th Jun 2017, 08:24
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Originally Posted by Derfred
probably meant cowl fasteners, lots of other possibilities. Similar damage happened with other Trent 700 engines.
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Old 12th Jun 2017, 08:27
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Pics were shown on 7 News.

You need to see the photos to believe it, half the engine has been pulled off. Holy cow!
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Old 12th Jun 2017, 08:29
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I didn't see any burnt areas??? Huh

Oh and the first time I heard the recording it was obviously "fault" he said

And it ain't half the Engine cowl either.....

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Old 12th Jun 2017, 08:46
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Originally Posted by ChrisJ800
Just listened to the ATC audio and wondering why they initially were directed to maintain 5000 then asked by ATC to climb to 6000. If traffic separation is needed shouldn't ATC ask the other aircraft to maneuver rather than the one with one engine inopp, especially to climb?
Fuel jettison- 6000ft required in Australia.
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Old 12th Jun 2017, 10:15
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Not much chance of jettisoning fuel from a A330 though!
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Old 12th Jun 2017, 10:51
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Jason Middleton is a pilot, it says here: University of New South Wales - School of Aviation "He has held a Commercial Pilot Licence since 1973, and flies regularly as an instrument rated pilot."
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Old 12th Jun 2017, 11:05
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The acoustic liner of the RR eng has let go a few times on the 330. We had a 330 doing a missed approached at DXB have it let go as TOGA was applied. Lots of noise on the ground, some initial vibration, then it settles down. Looked pretty much the same as this ENG.
Fuel jettison is an option for the A332, have no knowledge of the 333.
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Old 12th Jun 2017, 14:26
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If this was a western airline the crew would have been congratulated for a job well, done got the plane safely on the ground and all passengers and crew safe. But because it's a Chinese airline the only thing you people are concerned about is what was supposedly said over the radio....."fault" or "fooked"

Even some of the passengers interviewed on tv said the crew was calm and professional. Some of the passengers didn't even know the extent of the problem until they were safely on the ground.

Btw....to the crew....flight crew and cabin crew...congratulations on a great job getting the plane safely on the ground.
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Old 12th Jun 2017, 14:56
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Originally Posted by MONK
If this was a western airline the crew would have been congratulated for a job well, done got the plane safely on the ground and all passengers and crew safe. But because it's a Chinese airline the only thing you people are concerned about is what was supposedly said over the radio....."fault" or "fooked"

Even some of the passengers interviewed on tv said the crew was calm and professional. Some of the passengers didn't even know the extent of the problem until they were safely on the ground.

Btw....to the crew....flight crew and cabin crew...congratulations on a great job getting the plane safely on the ground.
Wow... an intelligent, well formed and valid statement void of any racism.

You're not actually in Aus, are you?
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Old 12th Jun 2017, 15:12
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Before you take cheap shots at foreign pilots, remember they have had the dedication to learn a second language as part of the training. Consider if you had to learn Japanese or Mandarin to such a level to operate in a dynamic environment. Few, including myself would be able to do so. Simply understanding their number system does my head in.
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Old 12th Jun 2017, 15:17
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Fuel jettison- 6000ft required in Australia.
https://www.airservicesaustralia.com...-proc-0062.pdf

Not much chance of jettisoning fuel from a A330 though!
Are you sure about that?
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Old 12th Jun 2017, 22:20
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Originally Posted by ChrisJ800
Just listened to the ATC audio and wondering why they initially were directed to maintain 5000 then asked by ATC to climb to 6000. If traffic separation is needed shouldn't ATC ask the other aircraft to maneuver rather than the one with one engine inopp, especially to climb?
Firstly the performance difference between 5000 & 6000 is negligible even for a twin with an engine failure.

Secondly an initial climb to 5000 is SOP for departing aircraft. When runway 34 is in use, arriving aircraft from the north on the 'Boree' arrival are flying towards the airfield and are limited to 6000 on decent. When there are no conflicts, departing aircraft are then cleared above 5000 and arriving cleared below 6000. In this case there may have been an arriving aircraft already at 6000.
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