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Old 11th Aug 2017, 23:50   #141 (permalink)
 
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Tiger is 100% owned by an Australian listed company that's why, forget Virgin's shareholding for a minute it's not Tiger. The Etihad/Singapore etc relationship is irrelevant.

From what I gather Tiger is controlled by Virgin. Etihad et al have no say. In saying this who profits in Tiger's earnings?
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Old 12th Aug 2017, 03:46   #142 (permalink)
 
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What's the problem 737pnf?

It's only an administrative thing. Quite smart if you ask me. Why restrict yourself for future possibilities?

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Old 12th Aug 2017, 08:48   #143 (permalink)
 
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Well, no one does wheels.. like VA, Tigerair also ran at a loss about 28 or so million this FY.
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Why?
Because the application probably cost them money. Money that they don't have.
At the very least, it cost resources within HQ time. Time (and money?) that JB/Blunty/PW should be investing in resources to perfect the 737 operation, instead of getting ready for what would require an additional type on the AOC
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Why?
Because the application probably cost them money. Money that they don't have.
At the very least, it cost resources within HQ time. Time (and money?) that JB/Blunty/PW should be investing in resources to perfect the 737 operation, instead of getting ready for what would require an additional type on the AOC
What they should have done is leave TT alone and let them make money which is what they were on the cusp of doing, instead of getting involved and changing fleets which has cost $$$. I agree with fleet simplification but the 320 was perfect for the operation they were doing and doing well.
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Old 12th Aug 2017, 15:27   #146 (permalink)
 
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A321NEO would have been a much better aeroplane to do it than Old 737's.
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Old 12th Aug 2017, 20:09   #147 (permalink)
 
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But then leasing costs would have blown everything out even further Morno
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Old 12th Aug 2017, 21:49   #148 (permalink)
 
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What they should have done is leave TT alone and let them make money which is what they were on the cusp of doing, instead of getting involved and changing fleets which has cost $$$. I agree with fleet simplification but the 320 was perfect for the operation they were doing and doing well.
Every sentence about VA starts with "What they should have done" - either because the management are stultifying in their stupidity or they actually sit around and ask "What's the worst approach to this or that..." and then do the worst.

It is unbelievable that a company that has now lost billions would stuff around with the only part of that business that is making or about to make a profit... but... then again, this is VA.
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Old 13th Aug 2017, 11:33   #149 (permalink)
 
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The domestic Virgin B737 I'm told has only lost money for a brief period in the capacity war with QF.

Then again every pilot thinks it's their fleet that's saving the company from financial oblivion.
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Old 13th Aug 2017, 11:38   #150 (permalink)
 
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So back to the original question...

Why has the 737 operation stalled? The Airbus fleet isn't even up for lease yet. Half the fleet was meant to be gone by now (original plan).
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Old 14th Aug 2017, 07:17   #151 (permalink)
 
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Half the fleet was meant to be gone by now (original plan).
There was a plan???.....
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Old 14th Aug 2017, 07:56   #152 (permalink)
 
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Well they didn't have a Plan B, that's where they got caught. They were pretty cocky on getting that 737 AOC last November they spent millions on crewing, scheduling and even loaded all the flights for booking like it was a done deal. Then came the bad news.
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Old 14th Aug 2017, 09:32   #153 (permalink)
 
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Add to that the Bali debacle and various other F#ckups large and small, and what happens to the person presiding over it? He's now what? You couldn't make this shit up.
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Old 20th Sep 2017, 13:12   #154 (permalink)
 
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wheels_down - there's some hefty losses being charted up on the VA Group Annual Report.
Released today, page 17 of the AR (#19 of the pdf document) shows, despite revenue and income of 543m (an increase of 14% from last year), that tiger made a loss of 24m for FY17.
Head-shaking results really...
Maybe the Bali debacle; the "lack of available simulator time" to train 737 pilots; and the struggles to get the 737 suite of manuals accepted by CASA may've been unforseeable (arguably, terribly mismanaged), but surely they would've been better pumping that spent money into developing tiger based on an A320 fleet? Other LCC seem to successfully use them - AirAsia, Jetstar, easyjet, jetblue...
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Old 21st Sep 2017, 01:42   #155 (permalink)
 
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Add to that the Bali debacle and various other F#ckups large and small, and what happens to the person presiding over it? He's now what? You couldn't make this shit up.
He get's a massive bonus again this year... that's what happens... along with the rest of the loss-inducing management team because they've made up some new buzz word 'positive cash flow' and it improved so they get big bonuses.
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Old 22nd Sep 2017, 09:20   #156 (permalink)
 
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And on it goes, AP, and on it goes........
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Old 23rd Sep 2017, 05:21   #157 (permalink)
 
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And on it goes, AP, and on it goes........
Ad infinitum, Ad Nauseam PM with no end in sight... wish I could earn that sort of money without any need to be diligent or achieve goals.
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Old 23rd Sep 2017, 06:24   #158 (permalink)
 
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Is the whole Boeing thing officially dead?

Are they attempting to quietly exit the 737 hoping nobody will notice? Failure on so many levels.
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Old 23rd Sep 2017, 07:03   #159 (permalink)
 
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Hard to say...flightaware shows each of the three registrations are operating return from one destination per day (two flights - there and back. PER, BNE, and CNS all feature).
There's meant to be a fourth being added to the fleet...not too sure what timing or tail number that'll be. Possibly VOM
The 737 HOTC has given notice that he is stepping down and leaving the company; whilst the HOTC for the company is stepping down to become a line captain. Hardly stuff that gives you confidence for what's going on inside HQ
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VH-VOR was taken from TT & moved to VAINZ to cover some maintenance at the beginning of this year. It is operating as a 'white tail'. Was supposed to be going back to Oz mid May, but is still in NZ.
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