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Old 23rd Mar 2017, 02:08
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Can’t wait for the Carla and Co Sydney intervention meeting. They’ll be selling tickets to this one. Just one question, does it come before or after the group email?
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Old 23rd Mar 2017, 02:13
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ROj, if it makes you feel better the other joint has not got much use for those ideas either from what I can see
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Old 23rd Mar 2017, 02:42
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I love being a garden variety line pilot based away from HO. Apart from rostering and leave issues, life is very good for me.

There may well be something to what everyone here is banging on about but I'll be buggered if I have any idea what it is. Hope the venting session helps though, I really do.
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Old 23rd Mar 2017, 03:08
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Originally Posted by Willie Nelson
I love being a garden variety line pilot based away from HO. Apart from rostering and leave issues, life is very good for me.

There may well be something to what everyone here is banging on about but I'll be buggered if I have any idea what it is. Hope the venting session helps though, I really do.
Thanks for that Willie, glad you're alright jack!
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Old 23rd Mar 2017, 03:09
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I am with you willie, have a great life at a base away from Melbourne and Sydney, I can hand on heart say I have NO idea what this thread is talking about? Which Check Captains have had the checking revoked and to what end?
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Old 23rd Mar 2017, 03:39
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I second Wille and Onion...lifestyle base for me and I have ABSOLUTELY no idea what's going on...
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Old 23rd Mar 2017, 03:56
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The deck chairs are being rearranged, the ship is rudderless and there is no one at the helm anyway. Oh, and there is an iceberg approaching. Did I miss anything?

The rot in head office affects everyone, even those in lifestyle bases. It may not be immediately visible but it will be.
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Old 23rd Mar 2017, 04:00
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Time to jump ship if you have the option???
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Old 23rd Mar 2017, 04:09
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Originally Posted by High_To_Low
Time to jump ship if you have the option???
If they let you leave 😏
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Old 23rd Mar 2017, 05:01
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Originally Posted by Ollie Onion
I am with you willie, have a great life at a base away from Melbourne and Sydney, I can hand on heart say I have NO idea what this thread is talking about? Which Check Captains have had the checking revoked and to what end?
The three B787 check pilot positions that were advertised, and then appointed. I think only 787 pilots were notified of the results. So the story goes, after the positions were allocated, the
heinously rude and galactically inept "protected species"
intervened as her selected protege's were not on the list.

The three positions have now been withdrawn.
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Old 23rd Mar 2017, 05:01
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Still waiting to hear from Nam OM4? Don't think you're alone - a mate in BN is in the same boat
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Old 23rd Mar 2017, 06:55
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Originally Posted by High_To_Low
Still waiting to hear from Nam OM4? Don't think you're alone - a mate in BN is in the same boat
Yeah still waiting ...
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Old 23rd Mar 2017, 07:41
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Originally Posted by Willie Nelson
I love being a garden variety line pilot based away from HO. Apart from rostering and leave issues, life is very good for me.
Arrive at the blu emu 45 before sign on (still dark). Download plans while waiting. #3 busses turn up together doh. Review plans, F@$#, aircraft swap mid duty, no APU. Review all the BS A/C status, rafts, TCAS version, engine model etc.

Read reams of irrelevant notams looking for the needle in the haystack, the one that might be important. Laugh at irrelevant FSO’s, bio hazard kits, really. Get to A/C. No tech log as engineering are under the same pressure as us. Get 4 different zone reports, 7 interruptions from groundstaff, refueller, leading hand, engineering, cabin manager, groundstaff and cabin manager.

Discover error on ULA, get leading hand back, pax count doesn’t add up, recount, still no good. New COBT required now with delay. Discovered missing pax with bag. Offload bag, head count now good. Need leading hand back to cockpit to tell that locks are engaged. Groundstaff remind us that COBT is XX, thanks for that, really needed another interruption.

Yay, loadsheet complete and performance data calculated. Do best not to swear when asked what the reason for delay is. Push back and start. Taxi out, S^&#, runway change, new performance calcs, new SID, box setup, check that F^$@ing flap setting. Briefing, chart blah blah blah, OCP, THREATS???? Your kidding aren’t you. Checklist from QRH for changes after start required. Joke about Just Culture, just don’t F@$& up!!!

Finally get airborne, amended wx for destination, start fuel calcs for next sector, wx diversions, slow down, speed up, hold, cx hold, vector. Eat apple and muesli bar for breakfast while trying to talk on radio. Wipe up spillage from mic.

Arrive at destination, no marshaller, call groundstaff, on their way, ATC getting crapped off as you block apron. Get to bay, wait 5 minutes for stairs. Disembark. Change A/C to one without APU.

Rinse wash repeat x 4.

Finished. Wait for blu emu, wonder why so hungry, then remember there are no meal breaks and you only brought b’fast, no time to get lunch during day. Salmonella sandwich from the cart? No thanks. Home at 6 to mildly annoyed family as you have missed another important date because ‘ROF removed due coverage’. Collapse on couch, try to listen to wife, but really just want peace and quiet, bed by 9. Up again at 3:15 for day 2 of the pattern. 2 earlies, 1 arvo then BOC. 5 days on, 2 off. Cant get leave, cant get days off. Don’t get me started on the +9hr flight time BOC.

Seriously, how long can this last?
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Old 23rd Mar 2017, 19:28
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Not long by the sound of it.
What is the BOC with more than 9hrs stick time? Surely that must be rostered with three crew?
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Old 23rd Mar 2017, 20:01
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Nup
9 1/2 flight time 12 hour duty under the CAO exemption that was only ever meant to get schedules up and running after the pilots dispute of over 25 years ago
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Old 23rd Mar 2017, 20:15
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Originally Posted by Wear the Foxhat
Arrive at the blu emu 45 before sign on (still dark). Download plans while waiting. #3 busses turn up together doh. Review plans, F@$#, aircraft swap mid duty, no APU. Review all the BS A/C status, rafts, TCAS version, engine model etc.

Read reams of irrelevant notams looking for the needle in the haystack, the one that might be important. Laugh at irrelevant FSO’s, bio hazard kits, really. Get to A/C. No tech log as engineering are under the same pressure as us. Get 4 different zone reports, 7 interruptions from groundstaff, refueller, leading hand, engineering, cabin manager, groundstaff and cabin manager.

Discover error on ULA, get leading hand back, pax count doesn’t add up, recount, still no good. New COBT required now with delay. Discovered missing pax with bag. Offload bag, head count now good. Need leading hand back to cockpit to tell that locks are engaged. Groundstaff remind us that COBT is XX, thanks for that, really needed another interruption.

Yay, loadsheet complete and performance data calculated. Do best not to swear when asked what the reason for delay is. Push back and start. Taxi out, S^&#, runway change, new performance calcs, new SID, box setup, check that F^$@ing flap setting. Briefing, chart blah blah blah, OCP, THREATS???? Your kidding aren’t you. Checklist from QRH for changes after start required. Joke about Just Culture, just don’t F@$& up!!!

Finally get airborne, amended wx for destination, start fuel calcs for next sector, wx diversions, slow down, speed up, hold, cx hold, vector. Eat apple and muesli bar for breakfast while trying to talk on radio. Wipe up spillage from mic.

Arrive at destination, no marshaller, call groundstaff, on their way, ATC getting crapped off as you block apron. Get to bay, wait 5 minutes for stairs. Disembark. Change A/C to one without APU.

Rinse wash repeat x 4.

Finished. Wait for blu emu, wonder why so hungry, then remember there are no meal breaks and you only brought b’fast, no time to get lunch during day. Salmonella sandwich from the cart? No thanks. Home at 6 to mildly annoyed family as you have missed another important date because ‘ROF removed due coverage’. Collapse on couch, try to listen to wife, but really just want peace and quiet, bed by 9. Up again at 3:15 for day 2 of the pattern. 2 earlies, 1 arvo then BOC. 5 days on, 2 off. Cant get leave, cant get days off. Don’t get me started on the +9hr flight time BOC.

Seriously, how long can this last?
Mate! I just about threw up in my brekky; you described it perfectly. Seriously, who would work in this industry?
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Old 23rd Mar 2017, 22:18
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EBA

Well 94% no vote on the 1st instalment of the last EBA and with a little AIPA interference to secure the 787 for the mothership and a revised offer of $6hr meal allowance taxed instead of crew meals supplied. Then a resounding yes vote with What did you think was going to happen??? The pineapple coming home to roost and now the lube worn off not overly pleasant.
You make your bed you lie in unfortunately. What you failed to mention in your daily account of life at Jetstar is after a few years the wife decides to leave and take kids and house because the Jetstar work life balance just not what she signed up for. Local handyman has more to offer and better lifestyle so she shacks up with him.
The whole outfit should be shut down and with casa reviewing the FRMS An48 don't expect things to get better anytime sooner.
I hear more and more pilots there signing up for the Flexiline option including management pilots.
Good luck. It really is an orange cancer
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Old 23rd Mar 2017, 22:20
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I don't get it, if you are so unhappy why don't you do everyone a favour and go elsewhere?
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Old 23rd Mar 2017, 22:32
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Originally Posted by Ollie Onion
I don't get it, if you are so unhappy why don't you do everyone a favour and go elsewhere?
MOU perhaps? Here for a command then back to one's safety net...?
Easy cheap words Ollie
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Old 23rd Mar 2017, 22:44
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crickey titan that bought back some memories
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