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Old 21st Mar 2017, 04:57
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Well I hope for their sake Sandilands and Crikey have gotten their facts right, because if he had accused me of recklessly endangering pax on false allegations, it is a toss up whether I would be reaching for a club or a phone to call my solicitor.

Even if the allegation were true - that the fault was identified earlier in the flight and the engine shut down near Canberra, I find it difficult to understand how a pilot could have foreseen the danger of a feathered prop flying off the aircraft. It is a very rare occurrence to start with and in all instances of which I am aware, it has happened whilst a prop was being powered.

The whole piece reads like someone has an axe to grind and I'm afraid that whatever the outcome of the investigation, Sandilands has slid down the dungheap of journalism and joined the baggage handler in my estimation.
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 04:58
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Originally Posted by Tim Hamilton View Post
Really looks like the PIC - " Stuffed Up Here" Just get it down. It could of had some sort of airfram damage. Just get it down soonest !!
where is the evidence that YSCB was closest at time of problem? Where is there any evidence of stuff up other than... well what?

Seems like all speculation and innuendo at the moment which is not only unhelpful and unfair but potentially libelous.

If you want to go out publicly and lay blame and criticism you need to provide evidence. How do you know what happened and where? And how do you know what the decision process for landing at YSSY was? Were you on the flight deck?

Sorry - that smacks of armchair expert to me but feel free to back up with more evidence than hearsay and rumour.
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 04:58
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Media releases: 21 March 2017 - Missing SAAB 340 propeller located
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 04:59
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Well look what we have here:



Found near Revesby Heights - almost 30km from Camden
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 05:04
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Originally Posted by jonkster View Post
where is the evidence that YSCB was closest at time of problem? Where is there any evidence of stuff up other than... well what?

Seems like all speculation and innuendo at the moment which is not only unhelpful and unfair but potentially libelous.

If you want to go out publicly and lay blame and criticism you need to provide evidence. How do you know what happened and where? And how do you know what the decision process for landing at YSSY was? Were you on the flight deck?

Sorry - that smacks of armchair expert to me but feel free to back up with more evidence than hearsay and rumour.

Time will tell !!
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 05:08
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Ben has now retracted and apologised, and so he should. That was a pretty poor effort.
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 05:13
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Time will tell....

3 years is the going rate isn't it?
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 05:15
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Originally Posted by itsnotthatbloodyhard View Post
Ben has now retracted and apologised, and so he should. That was a pretty poor effort.
Where is this ?
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 05:18
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Originally Posted by Tim Hamilton View Post
Time will tell !!
It has.


Originally Posted by Ben Sandilands tweet;
#lostprop The information relied upon in the earlier post was incorrect. Apologies to #REX and their pilots
The crew and company got unfairly slandered, without evidence by armchair 'aviation experts' who gleefully want to have a free shot and act all morally upright and 'in the know' when they know little at all.

source: https://twitter.com/@PlaneTalking
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 05:19
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Originally Posted by Tim Hamilton View Post
Where is this ?
https://twitter.com/PlaneTalking?ref...Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Absolutely disgusting he should also ensure that media (such as CH.7) whom reported his claims as fact immediately apologies. I personally know of a Captain in the US who took his own life after getting 'trial by media' after a commercial incident in 2014.
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 05:22
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I hope you have a good solicitor Ben Sandilands, maybe then you will learn to keep pen from paper until you know some actual facts. Which you clearly don't at all.
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 05:22
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Ha ha, went back to screenshot the offending article to find a new headline and buried well down the piece, a paragraph containing a retraction and apology - seems BS was fed some of the same by parties supposedly in the know and went off half-cocked. New text;

"An earlier post on this topic (for which the comments have been preserved) contained some incorrect information published in good faith. To be blunt, this reporter is unhappy with this situation, particularly given some of the sources.
It has now been established that the flight last Friday from Albury to Sydney was well past Canberra Airport when the pilots shut down the right hand engine and feathered its propeller, shortly before it separated and fell away, fortunately missing any control critical surface of the SAAB 340, which could have caused an crash likely to kill all 16 people on board. That propeller hasn’t been found. My apologies to REX and their pilots for doubting the judgments that led to a continuation of the flight when it was incorrectly described as having first encountered engine problems near Canberra."


Oh and BS, try and keep up would you, the propeller has been found.

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Old 21st Mar 2017, 05:28
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Interesting that right now, the article headline is still 'REX Broke Safety Rule In Last Friday's Lost Propeller Incident'.
Ben need to fix this up and then go and have a good hard look at himself.
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 05:29
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As I said previously perhaps itís time to pension off the ageing SAAB-340B's

Been around a long time since 2007 for the B version and the A version (No longer in REX service) ever longer

Regional Express bought B version 340ís in 2007 second hand from American Eagle. who began operating them around 1990. So some in the Regional Express fleet could be up to 27 years old.

Question is - what could replace them.

Perfect for REX's missions.

Any ideas ?
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 05:50
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Heh.. Sandilands is one of them global warming nutters so i'm not surprised he writes fact free articles..





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Old 21st Mar 2017, 05:56
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Tim Hamilton apology soon?

So Tim......
you've slandered the crew pretty well here a few paragraphs ago.
Do you have an apology ready to go son?
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 06:16
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Really found this time

Missing propeller found in Revesby bushland after falling off REX flight

A 100-kilogram propeller that fell off a Regional Express flight bound for Sydney has been found in bushland close to a built-up residential area in the city's south-west.
A crime scene has been set up at the location where the propeller was found in the Georges River National Park, just off The River Road.
I'd love to know how they determine this to be a "crime" scene. They seem to do the same with car accidents.

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Old 21st Mar 2017, 06:22
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Originally Posted by logansi View Post
Found near Revesby Heights - almost 30km from Camden
wow, Georges River National Park, just off The River Road Revesby Heights, barely 15 kilometres from YSSY in metro Sydney!
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 06:26
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Originally Posted by p.j.m View Post
Really found this time

Missing propeller found in Revesby bushland after falling off REX flight



I'd love to know how they determine this to be a "crime" scene. They seem to do the same with car accidents.

Cirme scene means they (the police) will secure the site until the ATSB arrives, as the ATSB will want to photograph the surrounding damaged trees as well as the prop, before it's moved.
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 06:28
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ABOUT VH-NRX

Serial number 291
Type 340B
First flight date 25/02/1992
Plane age 25.1 years
Registered 6 Oct 2004 in Australia

Built by Saab Aircraft AB, Linkoping, Sweden - 1992
First flown with test registration SE-G91 - February 25, 1992
Entered onto the U. S. Aircraft Register as N362BE - March 24, 1992
Registered to Lambert Leasing Inc, U. S. A.
Leased to Business Express, New York as the registered operator
Registered to Grant Holdings Inc, U. S. A. - July 29, 1992
Leased to Business Express, New York as the registered operator
Business Express was renamed Business Express Airlines - May 22, 1997
Withdrawn from service and and returned to Lessor for storage at Nashville, Tennessee - December 2000
Leased to Peninsula Airways, Anchorage, Alaska as the registered operator - January 01, 2004
Withdrawn from service and and returned to Lessor for storage at Nashville, Tennessee - August 03, 2004
Departed Nashville on ferry flight to Australia - September 20, 2004
Arrived Wagga Wagga at the conclusion of ferry flight - September 24, 2004
Cancelled from the U. S. Aircraft Register - September 30, 2004
Entered onto the Australian Aircraft Register as VH-NRX - October 06, 2004
Registered to Saab Aircraft Leasing AB, Linkoping, Sweden
Leased to Australia wide Airlines Ltd, Wagga Wagga t/a REX Regional Express Airlines as the registered operator
Operated first revenue service Wagga Wagga - Sydney as ZL664 - November 03, 2004
Sold to Regional Express Holdings Limited, Mascot, Sydney - October 16, 2008
Wonder how many hours and cycles it has accumulated ?
Would be interesting information.
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