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Currently 79 eligible bidders on the 744. Surplus of 19ish for 6 jets? A quick comparison of seniority numbers would seem to show about 10ish could displace to the 380 before the seniority numbers converge? Of course there are other levers to pull as well- any excess leave, planned retirements, lower divisor, etc.
RIN on the 747? S/T/U might be around for quite a while yet and still dropping into JFK. 789 daily Brisbane Chicago... remaining capacity to Lax (Maint checks)...but guess what? No where near enough airframes. The circus keeps writing new chapters and it wouldn't surprise to see a 747 parked in LHR in the future. Going down to 6 747s they reckon? Well not for a while yet. Who do they think they are kidding?
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RIN on the 747? S/T/U might be around for quite a while yet and still dropping into JFK. 789 daily Brisbane Chicago... remaining capacity to Lax (Maint checks)...but guess what? No where near enough airframes. The circus keeps writing new chapters and it wouldn't surprise to see a 747 parked in LHR in the future. Going down to 6 747s they reckon? Well not for a while yet. Who do they think they are kidding?
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Are the delivery dates for the 787-9 mentioned in this blog still accurate (18 October 2017 for VH-ZNA)? I'm considering taking the trip up to KPAE to watch it launch. No doubt there will be many at Sydney watching its arrival on the 20 October.
https://www.ausbt.com.au/community/v...-delivery-date
https://www.ausbt.com.au/community/v...-delivery-date
Went for a ride in Norwegian's dash 9 Bangkok - Oslo, so can provide a toilet report. Much better than Jetstar's dash 8, which is pathetic. If the same people, using the same logic, have specced out Q's new ones, there are going to be a lot of unhappy campers. Had the pleasure of spending 10 hours in the seat from hell (42C) Honolulu - Sydney last year. 17 hours will be special.
Seems some sanity has returned to the toilet door design department at Boeing. Those on the dash 8's took the meaning of plastic fantastic to whole new levels. Most of those on the dash 9 seemed to have gone back to the old style of concertina inwards. Except one which, from a distance, seems to open full width into the aisle. That should work well.
Scooting back home from Athens and according to Seatguru it has the same layout as Jetstar. ( this is where I would insert the crying emoticon - if I knew how to do it )
Seems some sanity has returned to the toilet door design department at Boeing. Those on the dash 8's took the meaning of plastic fantastic to whole new levels. Most of those on the dash 9 seemed to have gone back to the old style of concertina inwards. Except one which, from a distance, seems to open full width into the aisle. That should work well.
Scooting back home from Athens and according to Seatguru it has the same layout as Jetstar. ( this is where I would insert the crying emoticon - if I knew how to do it )
Most of those on the dash 9 seemed to have gone back to the old style of concertina inwards. Except one which, from a distance, seems to open full width into the aisle. That should work well.
Yep can’t wait to read the nightmarish reviews from economy punters on PER-LHR...but hey don’t worry they’ve got a scientist on board to specially design the food and lighting or some **** to make the trip more pleasurable....the only way I’d be doing that flight would up the front either J or PE...
The rate of climb to toc seemed very leisurely. It was chockers so maybe max weight. Perhaps Norwegian use a very conservative climb power setting.
Maybe Qantas ones have a lot more ponies and mtow to get to London?
OK I know, less seats, but PER - LHR is going to need a shipload of fuel.
Maybe Qantas ones have a lot more ponies and mtow to get to London?
OK I know, less seats, but PER - LHR is going to need a shipload of fuel.
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While not a huge fan of 787s, I flew ANA's 789 a couple of weeks ago. You'd be astonished how comfortable a 34" intelligently designed seat can be even if a bit narrow. Would be survivable for 17 hours.
Hardly a comparison with Jetstar (30").
Please God let OEB head to the desert soon.
Hardly a comparison with Jetstar (30").
Please God let OEB head to the desert soon.
While not a huge fan of 787s, I flew ANA's 789 a couple of weeks ago. You'd be astonished how comfortable a 34" intelligently designed seat can be even if a bit narrow. Would be survivable for 17 hours.
Hardly a comparison with Jetstar (30").
Please God let OEB head to the desert soon.
Hardly a comparison with Jetstar (30").
Please God let OEB head to the desert soon.
Why? OEB had a C check in August so why hurry and get rid of it might as well use up the two years.
The only way that OEB could remain in service after then would be if it was given its fourth "D" check - a very expensive option so I don't think that will happen. OJS/T/U are coming up to their third "D" check and, in the case of "S", they gave it a "C+" check which bought another two years. The rumour mill indicates that the six ER's will get their third "D" check and remain in service until 2025 (after the A380's are retired) and also, OJU may get a "D" check to keep an extra aircraft available as well as keeping the simulator(s) acceptable with their RR engine configuration.
I don't expect there to be a RIN for the B747 crews as the aircraft will be around for a long time yet and attrition will take care of the small reduction in hulls.
That was August 2016 so I expect OEB will depart August 2018 - just as the second batch of four B787's arrive to fly out of the Brisbane base.
The only way that OEB could remain in service after then would be if it was given its fourth "D" check - a very expensive option so I don't think that will happen. OJS/T/U are coming up to their third "D" check and, in the case of "S", they gave it a "C+" check which bought another two years. The rumour mill indicates that the six ER's will get their third "D" check and remain in service until 2025 (after the A380's are retired) and also, OJU may get a "D" check to keep an extra aircraft available as well as keeping the simulator(s) acceptable with their RR engine configuration.
I don't expect there to be a RIN for the B747 crews as the aircraft will be around for a long time yet and attrition will take care of the small reduction in hulls.
The only way that OEB could remain in service after then would be if it was given its fourth "D" check - a very expensive option so I don't think that will happen. OJS/T/U are coming up to their third "D" check and, in the case of "S", they gave it a "C+" check which bought another two years. The rumour mill indicates that the six ER's will get their third "D" check and remain in service until 2025 (after the A380's are retired) and also, OJU may get a "D" check to keep an extra aircraft available as well as keeping the simulator(s) acceptable with their RR engine configuration.
I don't expect there to be a RIN for the B747 crews as the aircraft will be around for a long time yet and attrition will take care of the small reduction in hulls.
The 5 slots will not even cover retirements over the next 12 months let alone stop the 185 hour divisors, constant assignment of sim supports and standbys or breaking of pattern lines.
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Funniest thing I’ve read all week.
I think it's called sarcasm.
By the way, I didn't think there was anything that insulted journalists. Whatever professionalism once existed with this occupation certainly doesn't exist any more. "Journalists" are merely a conduit from the corporate and government spin doctors to the great unwashed. Regurgitating press releases with a simple cut and paste. The driving imperative being the first to break the story, regardless of the actual content and the veracity thereof.
By the way, I didn't think there was anything that insulted journalists. Whatever professionalism once existed with this occupation certainly doesn't exist any more. "Journalists" are merely a conduit from the corporate and government spin doctors to the great unwashed. Regurgitating press releases with a simple cut and paste. The driving imperative being the first to break the story, regardless of the actual content and the veracity thereof.
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QF exec overheard to say that the 787-9 PER-LHR route is very very tight and they are anticipating that enough of these flights will need a fuel stop that it makes the whole thing a little doubtful.
There is also negative market reaction regarding MEL passengers and this route, having to fly via PER and then sit in a "narrow" wide body for 18+ hours.
The original QF afternoon A380 MEL-SIN-LHR was perfect.
Is this really progress ?
There is also negative market reaction regarding MEL passengers and this route, having to fly via PER and then sit in a "narrow" wide body for 18+ hours.
The original QF afternoon A380 MEL-SIN-LHR was perfect.
Is this really progress ?
QF exec overheard to say that the 787-9 PER-LHR route is very very tight and they are anticipating that enough of these flights will need a fuel stop that it makes the whole thing a little doubtful.
There is also negative market reaction regarding MEL passengers and this route, having to fly via PER and then sit in a "narrow" wide body for 18+ hours.
The original QF afternoon A380 MEL-SIN-LHR was perfect.
Is this really progress ?
There is also negative market reaction regarding MEL passengers and this route, having to fly via PER and then sit in a "narrow" wide body for 18+ hours.
The original QF afternoon A380 MEL-SIN-LHR was perfect.
Is this really progress ?
