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Old 20th Dec 2016, 03:22
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Naming an airline after a person who's never had sex is a bit weird as well isn't it? Jeeze, I miss Ansett (pre-'that year'). Ansett. Now, that's a name.

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Old 20th Dec 2016, 04:01
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Is it any wonder that many can't be bothered watching the safety demos? As Safety is a serious matter, it's not very smart to make light of it. VA's video will, no doubt, attract attention but will the 'guests' take note of the serious message? Score: 0/10
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Old 20th Dec 2016, 06:16
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Have to agree with Ken. The worst I have ever seen. The fact that the safety equipment is completely out of context should make it almost impossible for anyone that can't speak English understand where and what to do at a critical time.
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Old 20th Dec 2016, 07:21
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Does it get people to watch? Yes
Does it help advertising? Yes
Do I like it? Who cares what I think but I suspect they've achieved what they wanted.
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Old 20th Dec 2016, 08:12
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Dramas unfolding over in the UAE that may well impact VA. One of the airlines sunk enormous money into Air Berlin and Alitalia and is now about to dump 3000 of their own staff. The other UAE entity has even bigger problems.
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Old 20th Dec 2016, 08:34
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I like it. Well done.
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Old 20th Dec 2016, 10:30
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The irony of that video is it that it does a decent job of advertising every company BUT Virgin.
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Old 20th Dec 2016, 23:00
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They should have studied the ANZ safety videos, they are very well done...
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Old 21st Dec 2016, 01:03
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From Australian Aviation

Six Chinese carriers that fly to Australia plan to work together to boost the number of tourists travelling between the two countries.

On Tuesday, Air China, China Eastern, China Southern, Hainan Airlines, Sichuan Airlines and Xiamen Air signed a memorandum of understanding at the launch of the China-Australia Year of Tourism 2017 program of events in Sydney on Tuesday.

“The agreement will see the airlines not only taking a coordinated approach towards increasing capacity between China and Australia but will also see them joining together in tourism marketing and promotional activities,” the China National Tourist Office said in a statement.
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Old 14th Jan 2017, 18:07
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Originally Posted by wheels_down
No restrictions on Domestic, the Chinese could operate if they wanted to. Think Tiger Airways Australia etc...

No Sydney slots available so not sure why anyone would bother.
Um, not really. They would have to obtain an Australian or NZ AOC and operate under ANZA rules but I think there's a little more to it than that, even the domestic operation would have to be (while foreign owned) set up with the principle operational personnel and executives domiciled in Australia - i.e. within the legal reach of CASA and Australian Law. So, it's not that easy really. The best bet is for a major Chinese carrier to take a 10% stake in Qantas Airways and as Qantas is quite large but not as large or on the scale of the Chinese carriers, the small amount of traffic it would receive would probably be large by QF standards and contribute to viability. China is still developing, I'm not convinced their aviation sector is as rigorous and stable as major western countries so while I hope it doesn't happen, any sort of major incident will probably drive even Chinese nationals into the arms of QF, VA and NZ. Of course, none of us would want that to happen because of such an incident but Americans still love Qantas and Virgin Australia... even if many Australians don't think QF is that good, they are miles ahead of US carriers which is why they are making lots of money on the Pacific.
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Old 14th Jan 2017, 18:18
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Originally Posted by Tommy Bahama
Because to fix a problem you have to admit there is one and Virgin never do that. You could also assume both carriers PR machines would be working flat out trying to work out how to put a positive spin on this so their workers don't get confused.....
Not sure I entirely agree... QF did say there was a problem... (yes, of course there was a tax advantage in it for them but any public company wouldn't pass over that if it was available) such as profitability of certain business units and value of depreciated assets massively overvalued due to currency fluctuations since they were purchased (747s). They made the write down and they enacted changes to reduce costs, etc. and within 18 months they are massively profitable (yes, the fuel price had some impact but it was available to all carriers)... the difference is at VA, they say there's a problem, then borrow more money, in the last case allegedly to pay back borrowed money (and somehow that's going to improve their capital position??? Capital is cash essentially so how does debt do that... anyway) and keep saying after every loss (5 years now) the well worn line of profit being 'just around the corner'. Hate Joyce or love him, the media has had it out for him and they have fawned all over the mail room boy and I'm sorry but AJ has delivered, MRB has not. So, agree, VA don't admit there's a problem but I'm not sure that applies to QF as well.
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Old 14th Jan 2017, 18:28
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Originally Posted by Captain Dart
Naming an airline after a person who's never had sex is a bit weird as well isn't it? Jeeze, I miss Ansett (pre-'that year'). Ansett. Now, that's a name.
VA falls into financial oblivion, government has no choice but to prop them up, buy out the overseas owners and put creditors on a slow drip... ala Air NZ in 2001/2, government pound of flesh is to clean out senior management with immediate effect... bring in new CEO. Bob Ansett is chosen and he agrees but points out with the collapse, VA name is now not viable, he will accept half the salary they offer on one condition... Ansett Australia is re-born... LOL
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Old 14th Jan 2017, 23:10
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That video bores me to tears, as with a few of the Air NZ videos it is just too long! I remember I was paxing around alot on Air NZ when the 'Hobbit' safety video was in, I must of seen it twice a week for about 4 months, the first time was amusing then after that I just ignored it as it went on and on. There is a very fine balance at getting the safety message across, Air NZ has had a few successes but probably more failures.
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