Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > PPRuNe Worldwide > Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
Reload this Page >

China Eastern Turbulent Sydney Landing

Wikiposts
Search
Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific Airline and RPT Rumours & News in Australia, enZed and the Pacific

China Eastern Turbulent Sydney Landing

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 29th Nov 2016, 07:14
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 18
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
China Eastern Turbulent Sydney Landing

A China Eastern aircraft landed in Sydney today in an apparent turbulent landing.

The aircraft landed safely thankfully but some passengers required hospital treatment.

Other aircraft landed around the same time without suffering incidents.

It seems some passengers may not have been wearing seatbelts at the time of the incident.


Sydney airport: Turbulence on China Eastern flight leaves seven hospitalised
L-Plater is offline  
Old 29th Nov 2016, 10:36
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Earth
Posts: 47
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Seven people have been injured when a plane hit turbulence while landing at Sydney's

Seven injured in Sydney flight turbulence

a "shaky landing"
Preemo is offline  
Old 29th Nov 2016, 11:44
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Reading, UK
Posts: 15,819
Received 201 Likes on 93 Posts
The "shaky landing" happened at FL200.
DaveReidUK is offline  
Old 29th Nov 2016, 18:07
  #4 (permalink)  
basmand
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
From what I hear from my girlfriend, who is an FA for QF, it's often the Chinese that stand up/walk around on finals and touchdown. I'm not surprised.
 
Old 29th Nov 2016, 18:46
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Sydney
Posts: 470
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by basmand
From what I hear from my girlfriend, who is an FA for QF, it's often the Chinese that stand up/walk around on finals and touchdown. I'm not surprised.
Natural selection at work right there.
IsDon is offline  
Old 29th Nov 2016, 20:17
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 263
Received 3 Likes on 1 Post
After the seatbelt sign has been left on for entire 10+ hour flight, passengers tend to take it for granted. Chinese FA's will not challenge J class passengers so this type of event is inevitable.
Karunch is offline  
Old 29th Nov 2016, 21:07
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Bran Castle
Posts: 218
Received 41 Likes on 14 Posts
Totally unsurprising.

Extreme airline complaints: Chinese passengers attack flight crews, open plane doors

Witnessed plenty of darwin award contenders getting up and walking around while the sign is on.
romeocharlie is offline  
Old 29th Nov 2016, 22:19
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: SEQ
Age: 54
Posts: 512
Received 24 Likes on 9 Posts
I think you'll find that the shaky landing referred to the state of the passengers on landing - there is a video circulating locally of a female pax who is best described as a gibbering wreck.
spinex is offline  
Old 29th Nov 2016, 22:25
  #9 (permalink)  
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 1996
Location: Utopia
Posts: 7,423
Received 203 Likes on 114 Posts
http://www.pprune.org/australia-new-...y-landing.html
tail wheel is online now  
Old 29th Nov 2016, 23:55
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: U.S.A
Age: 56
Posts: 497
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
A lot of the fo's in the jumpseat dont wear seatbelts on take or landing too!!!
oicur12.again is offline  
Old 30th Nov 2016, 00:13
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Oz
Posts: 85
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Landing just yesterday in Honkers, we heard one of our FAs through the cockpit door yelling at someone to sit down.....turns out someone thought a few seconds before the retard call was the perfect time to stretch their legs
brown_hornet is offline  
Old 30th Nov 2016, 02:17
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Australia
Posts: 314
Received 5 Likes on 1 Post
Originally Posted by oicur12.again
A lot of the fo's in the jumpseat dont wear seatbelts on take or landing too!!!
There are only 3 seats (and seat belts) in the cockpit of a RAAF P3, however there are regularly 5 people up the front for takeoff and landing....

No one is sitting on anyone's lap!
Slezy9 is offline  
Old 30th Nov 2016, 02:24
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: U.S.A
Age: 56
Posts: 497
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
Yep, i recall many years ago 6 of us in the 320 cockpit bumping around the avalon circuit.
oicur12.again is offline  
Old 30th Nov 2016, 02:31
  #14 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: FL370
Posts: 131
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by basmand
From what I hear from my girlfriend, who is an FA for QF, it's often the Chinese that stand up/walk around on finals and touchdown. I'm not surprised.
I spend a lot of time down the back, and I have seen that many times with my own eyes!!
sealear is offline  
Old 30th Nov 2016, 02:50
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Oz
Age: 68
Posts: 1,913
Received 295 Likes on 124 Posts
After the seatbelt sign has been left on for entire 10+ hour flight, passengers tend to take it for granted.
Is this some sort of SOP because I've seen it on CZ also?

My company is very pro talking to pax before departure/cruise about the usual weather, arr times etc...I've never heard anything from any pilots on at least half dozen Chinese flight.
PoppaJo is offline  
Old 30th Nov 2016, 03:07
  #16 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: PA
Age: 59
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
First off, according to the airline, the ac was in cruise.

Perhaps it is best to leave off all of the comments regarding Chinese passengers.

Aussie Airlines that enforce the seatbelt sign? I am certain, having extensive experience flying around Oz, that there are very, very few.

Flights around China and other countries are much different, ever seen a pax have a goat as carryon? well it happens (and it okay on many flights)

Regarding the pax, ever been on a Ramadan flight?

Sorry, but it IS the crew job to educate and enforce, which in reality, I see very little of. When was the last time when the SB sign came on, the cabin crew went around and observed/enforced the SB requirement?
underfire is offline  
Old 30th Nov 2016, 04:09
  #17 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: A house
Posts: 645
Received 9 Likes on 3 Posts
Its a procedure and happens on the majority of times the FSB sign is used at VA. Often to the detriment of the safety of the cabin crew if it gets really bad....
Chadzat is offline  
Old 30th Nov 2016, 04:20
  #18 (permalink)  
Hasselhof
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Aussie Airlines that enforce the seatbelt sign? I am certain, having extensive experience flying around Oz, that there are very, very few.
Funny that, at a fair guess I'd say that a lot of people that post on this site have extensive experience flying around Oz too.

Flights around China and other countries are much different, ever seen a pax have a goat as carryon? well it happens (and it okay on many flights)
No, not in Australia. And that's what we are talking about, a flight into Australia. And since that anecdote has nothing at all to do with pax injuries whilst not wearing seat belts during a landing (as it has been reported in the press mind you) I'm not entirely sure why you would bring it up.

When was the last time when the SB sign came on, the cabin crew went around and observed/enforced the SB requirement?
You serious? Umm... every single time I've been on pax on a flight inside the Australian (and many other) FIRs? I can't think of a time where they haven't.
 
Old 30th Nov 2016, 04:41
  #19 (permalink)  
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 1996
Location: Utopia
Posts: 7,423
Received 203 Likes on 114 Posts
This thread is all about:

A China Eastern aircraft landed in Sydney today in an apparent turbulent landing.

The aircraft landed safely thankfully but some passengers required hospital treatment.

Other aircraft landed around the same time without suffering incidents.
Nothing more - and most certainly not about alleged airline practices in China.

If you've all finished discussing the China Eastern incident in Sydney, I am happy to close the thread as the B... S..., willie wagging and sound of instant expert keyboards is getting a tad too deep!!

tail wheel is online now  
Old 30th Nov 2016, 06:44
  #20 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Reading, UK
Posts: 15,819
Received 201 Likes on 93 Posts
Originally Posted by spinex
I think you'll find that the shaky landing referred to the state of the passengers on landing
No.

While I'm sure that's a good description of the state of the pax when they disembarked, the reference in the article linked by the OP said

"Seven people have been injured when a plane hit turbulence while landing at Sydney's International Airport. Five passengers and two crew members were taken to hospital after China Eastern flight MU777 from China encountered a shaky landing about 2.45pm on Tuesday. Three suffered neck injuries, while the others suffered a lacerated jaw, minor head wound, wrist injury and back pain."

which is a ludicrous way to describe something that had actually happened at 20,000 feet, 20 minutes previously..
DaveReidUK is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.