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Old 15th Dec 2016, 08:15
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Originally Posted by DeltaT
Use the Emirates principle:

Pay the money, and they will come
Sometimes just having realistic minimum experience will do the trick. I know for checking roles and CP roles there are regulatory mins but some of the ads list experience required on 4+ aircraft and the obligitory space shuttle landing.

Its just like the industry I'm in now. Company owners don't want to train anyone but expect you to work for $20 an hour.
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Old 16th Dec 2016, 01:19
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QantasLink on hunt for its next pilots

QantasLink pilot Arika Malony is looking to transfer to Qantas main-line operations.

The Australian 12:00AM December 16, 2016

Qantas’s regional airline QantasLink is on a hiring spree as some of its pilots shift to the carrier’s main-line operation in preparation for the introduction of the Boeing Dreamliner to its fleet next year.

The regional airline is on the hunt for entry-level, first officer, and captain positions as some of its existing roster of pilots begin transitioning over to Qantas to fill out its ranks.

QantasLink, which employs 420 pilots, has long been considered an academy for Qantas, where the regional carrier’s best and brightest pilots (???) often move on to the bigger aircraft in its main-line fleet.

A Qantas spokeswoman said there was no target for the number of pilots to be hired through this recruitment round, but that the airline would take a flexible approach depending on the range of candidates it received applications from. (Read including 457 Visa recruiting???)

“As a guide, we’re looking to offer 16 to 20 positions on each planned ground school across a range of levels: trainees, first officers and captains,” she said.

“It’s significant compared to previous recruitment programs. The last time we recruited for QantasLink pilots was in 2013 and it was limited to between four and eight pilots on each ground school.”

One such QantasLink pilot who could soon be shifting over to Qantas main line is Arika Malony, who is currently going through assessment with the airline.

Ms Malony has been with QantasLink for six years and said it was the perfect training ground for her career as a pilot.

“The training that they give you, not just online but in the simulator, the program they have in place and the instructors they have got certainly enables you to broaden your mindset and allows you to adapt to different situations,” she said.

“It’s also been a really wonderful work life balance over the past six years for me. We do our share of overnights but we certainly don’t go flying through the night, which is nice for the body clock.”

Ms Malony joined QantasLink when she was 25. Her first job with the airline was as a first officer on one of QantasLink’s Q400 Bombardier Dash 8 turboprop aircraft.

The recruitment drive from QantasLink comes as both Qantas’s main-line operation and its budget carrier Jetstar are also on hiring sprees. More than 500 hopefuls from Australia and overseas applied for the 170 pilot positions Qantas aims to fill over the next three years as it begins taking delivery of its Boeing 787s from October.

The recruitment drive, announced earlier this year, is the first time since 2009 Qantas has opened up new flying opportunities to external candidates.

Qantas is going through the final stages of its selection process before on-board training starts next month. The first of the new recruits are expected to be ready for duty by May.

It is expected that most of the new recruits will be brought on as second officers for Qantas’s A330 fleet.

Jetstar plans to boost its pilot ranks by 50 over the next two years. Jetstar’s recruitment drive for Australia-based pilots will boost its overall pilot ranks from 800 to about 850 by 2018.


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Old 16th Dec 2016, 01:35
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QantasLink, which employs 420 pilots, has long been considered an academy for Qantas, where the regional carrier’s best and brightest pilots often move on to the bigger aircraft in its main-line fleet.

A Qantas spokeswoman said there was no target for the number of pilots to be hired through this recruitment round, but that the airline would take a flexible approach depending on the range of candidates it received applications from.

“As a guide, we’re looking to offer 16 to 20 positions on each planned ground school across a range of levels: trainees, first officers and captains,” she said.

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“As a guide, we’re looking to offer 16 to 20 positions on each planned ground school across a range of levels: trainees, first officers and captains,” she said.
Read including 457 Visa recruiting???
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Old 16th Dec 2016, 02:18
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Are the captains for Jetstar NZ (Regional) or for Qlink?
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Old 16th Dec 2016, 03:25
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There's no direct entry commands at QLink currently.

More than enough suitable FO's
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Old 16th Dec 2016, 04:00
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QantasLink, which employs 420 pilots, has long been considered an academy for Qantas, where the regional carrier’s best and brightest pilots often move on to the bigger aircraft in its main-line fleet.
No sure how the word 'often' snuck through the fact checker!

Maybe the author should ask why are there so many QLink pilots at carriers other than Qantas!

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Old 16th Dec 2016, 04:23
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Dors anyone else remember when, if employed at Easterns it was almost a guaranteed 'NO' for a jump across to mainline?
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Old 16th Dec 2016, 21:55
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GN:
There's no direct entry commands at QLink currently.

More than enough suitable FO's
Why then are QLink advertising for 457 Visa pilots overseas?
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Old 17th Dec 2016, 00:06
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GN:

Why then are QLink advertising for 457 Visa pilots overseas?
Can you show me where they are advertising?

I am curious.
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Old 17th Dec 2016, 02:17
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Originally Posted by Bankrupt84
Can you show me where they are advertising?

I am curious.
Are the 457s for FO positions or captains. The current 457s from South Africa went in as FOs.

I'd imagine any DEC into Qlink would only cause more displeasure amongst the troops and increase the exodus.
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Old 17th Dec 2016, 04:24
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I can't believe there were not enough qualified people in Australia to become dash 8 f/o's that 457 visa's have been used.
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Didn't stop VARA.
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Old 17th Dec 2016, 06:19
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Originally Posted by framer
I can't believe there were not enough qualified people in Australia to become dash 8 f/o's that 457 visa's have been used
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I can't believe there were not enough qualified dash 8 f/o's (in Australia) that 457 visa's have to be used
See the subtlety? Qualified dash 8 f/o's are in short supply. Of course they are in short supply, because very few can afford to do a speculative endorsement without the reasonable prospect of a job. Hence there is rarely a large pool of qualified and current individuals sitting around just waiting for a job to pop up.

Importing labour is a "two-fa" for an employer. It increase the supply, driving down price and it creates a visa holder beholden to their sponsor with a compliant and acquiescent attitude. In short, it magnifies the power over employees as a job loss means no visa.

I'm sure some employers would love to have their entire workforce on 457's. By specifying the EXACT qualification &/or recency/experience required means the available pool of Australian's available who meet the criteria is very small, therefore justifying employing 457's.

Not saying this is the case here, just musing about hypothetical possibilities.
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Old 17th Dec 2016, 06:46
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And that is why there won't be a pilot shortage in Australia, as the government is open to stunts like this to be pulled and there will always be people who are willing to move to Australia and undercut or take low-ball wages, as it is way better here than where they are coming from.
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Old 17th Dec 2016, 09:57
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Not really, NN... many Aussies o/s don't come back because they refuse to be treated like dickheads & disrespected by the HR Departments, who have ruined the industry.
It's a Pilot's Market around the globe right now (for those with legit logbooks/Quals & unfraudelent experience)!
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Old 17th Dec 2016, 10:26
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many Aussies o/s don't come back because they refuse to be treated like dickheads & disrespected by the HR Departments
You think that trait is exclusive to Australian Aviation? It isn't - it's worldwide.

I'd hazard a guess that the overwhelming majority of Australian pilots that choose not to return don't come back because they would have to start at the bottom of the seniority list, forced change in rank, and thus, take a substantial pay cut to do so.

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Old 17th Dec 2016, 12:29
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They are Defo interviewing South African pilots for Qlink. Three year contract no citizenship at end. Wide bodied Captains being offered FO positions.
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Old 17th Dec 2016, 12:39
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Yep, there are quite a few wide bodied captains floating around.
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I'd hazard a guess that the overwhelming majority of Australian pilots that choose not to return don't come back because they would have to start at the bottom of the seniority list, forced change in rank, and thus, take a substantial pay cut to do so.
Does that apply to you Keepitrealok??
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