AirAsia: Why are they still here?
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AirAsia: Why are they still here?
Alarm bells have been ringing for a while now, the trend of incidents continues, no action will be taken.
Keep a close eye on them folks. Stay Safe.
Keep a close eye on them folks. Stay Safe.
AIRASIA X is facing its sixth investigation by the Australian Transport Safety Bureau in 18-months, after another incident in southeast Queensland.
Last Saturday, October 8, an AirAsia X A330 was diverted from the Gold Coast to Brisbane when its wing flaps failed to fully deploy.
As wing flaps work to slow down an aircraft on landing, it was feared the aircraft would overshoot the runway at Coolangatta and plough into traffic.
Instead flight D7-200 was diverted to Brisbane where fire trucks were placed on standby and other aircraft cleared from the runway ahead of the landing.
Other incidents under investigation include:
* a “loss of separation” involving and AirAsia X A330 and a Jetstar plane over the Gold Coast in July;
* an engine shutdown en route from Sydney to Kuala Lumpur, resulting in a diversion to Melbourne on August 16;
* a taxiing incident in Melbourne last month, in which an AirAsia X aircraft began taxiing before the pushback tug and engine moved clear;
* a descent below minimum safe altitude at Gold Coast Airport on September 11.
Aviation expert, Neil Hansford said the problems were “a direct reflection of the quality of training, the quality of supervision and the quality of the checks being done”.
“All of those incidents are inexcusable. If it was one of the smaller Australian carriers, the Civil Aviation Safety Authority would ground them,” Mr Hansford said.
A CASA spokesman declined to discuss AirAsia X but indicated there was no extra attention being given to the budget airline.
Mr Hansford asked if they were waiting for a plane crash.
“CASA needs to say (to AirAsia X) “you lose your flight approval to come to Australia, until you raise standards”,” he said.
Despite its recent history, AirAsia X continues to grow in popularity with Australian travellers.
Figures from the Bureau of Infrastructure, Transport and Regional Economics’ International Airline Activity report, show AirAsia X recorded 46 per cent growth in the year to July, to claim a 4.1 per cent share of all overseas travellers in and out of Australia.
An AirAsia Berhad spokesman said the airline would celebrate its tenth birthday next year, and was proud that its first route in 2007 was to the Gold Coast.
“The safety of all guests and our crew is our utmost priority at all times,” he said.
“AirAsia remains committed to ensuring its compliance to all safety and security regulations.”
http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel...3e65d11a69e402
Last Saturday, October 8, an AirAsia X A330 was diverted from the Gold Coast to Brisbane when its wing flaps failed to fully deploy.
As wing flaps work to slow down an aircraft on landing, it was feared the aircraft would overshoot the runway at Coolangatta and plough into traffic.
Instead flight D7-200 was diverted to Brisbane where fire trucks were placed on standby and other aircraft cleared from the runway ahead of the landing.
Other incidents under investigation include:
* a “loss of separation” involving and AirAsia X A330 and a Jetstar plane over the Gold Coast in July;
* an engine shutdown en route from Sydney to Kuala Lumpur, resulting in a diversion to Melbourne on August 16;
* a taxiing incident in Melbourne last month, in which an AirAsia X aircraft began taxiing before the pushback tug and engine moved clear;
* a descent below minimum safe altitude at Gold Coast Airport on September 11.
Aviation expert, Neil Hansford said the problems were “a direct reflection of the quality of training, the quality of supervision and the quality of the checks being done”.
“All of those incidents are inexcusable. If it was one of the smaller Australian carriers, the Civil Aviation Safety Authority would ground them,” Mr Hansford said.
A CASA spokesman declined to discuss AirAsia X but indicated there was no extra attention being given to the budget airline.
Mr Hansford asked if they were waiting for a plane crash.
“CASA needs to say (to AirAsia X) “you lose your flight approval to come to Australia, until you raise standards”,” he said.
Despite its recent history, AirAsia X continues to grow in popularity with Australian travellers.
Figures from the Bureau of Infrastructure, Transport and Regional Economics’ International Airline Activity report, show AirAsia X recorded 46 per cent growth in the year to July, to claim a 4.1 per cent share of all overseas travellers in and out of Australia.
An AirAsia Berhad spokesman said the airline would celebrate its tenth birthday next year, and was proud that its first route in 2007 was to the Gold Coast.
“The safety of all guests and our crew is our utmost priority at all times,” he said.
“AirAsia remains committed to ensuring its compliance to all safety and security regulations.”
http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel...3e65d11a69e402
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It is a joke they have not been suspended operating into Oz yet!
Where is this article? Reference please, thanks.
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Here: http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel...3e65d11a69e402
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Where is this article? Reference please, thanks.
Cheers.
Here: http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel...3e65d11a69e402
Tail Wheel
To be fair a flap failure and a engine failure are not necessarily anyone's fault stuff does go wrong in aviation.
The reality is that it would be almost impossible politically for CASA to ban one airline from Australia even if they wanted to. There would be blowback from every department in the government.
Garuda managed to keep flying to Australia whilst banned by the EU and killing Australian journalists in a preventable accident.
The reality is that it would be almost impossible politically for CASA to ban one airline from Australia even if they wanted to. There would be blowback from every department in the government.
Garuda managed to keep flying to Australia whilst banned by the EU and killing Australian journalists in a preventable accident.
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Just take a look at the crews as they pass through the terminal!
Majority are inexperienced kids/cadets, who are poorly trained but all about the gold braid and playing games on their phone inflight. Trust me, I've seen it first hand.
A lot of it is to do with the Asian rush / on time performance culture also.
Sadly this airline is just another one on the growing list of Carriers I refuse to fly on now... and it's a big list!
Majority are inexperienced kids/cadets, who are poorly trained but all about the gold braid and playing games on their phone inflight. Trust me, I've seen it first hand.
A lot of it is to do with the Asian rush / on time performance culture also.
Sadly this airline is just another one on the growing list of Carriers I refuse to fly on now... and it's a big list!
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There's ONE race in the world and it's the human race.
Most of the people around the world would call it "realist", calling a spade a spade... unless you're from the left socialist/Marxist minority that's so vocal in Australia... but we'll leave that for the Jet Blast section on here.
I'll always commend (& have!) professional performance; service & treatment no matter what country they're from but many Asians are some of the most discriminatory people on the planet... just try getting into one of their many legacy airlines, doing their "Medicals" or living there...
This carrier still remains on my "List"
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As wing flaps work to slow down an aircraft on landing, it was feared the aircraft would overshoot the runway at Coolangatta and plough into traffic.
Similar incidents have happened with Australian airlines recently including:
Jetstar engine shutdown and diversion to Guam.
Jetstar emergency landing due to haze in cabin.
Qantas emergency descent due pressurisation failure.
Qantas A330 dispatching with required navigation equipment U/S
it was feared the aircraft would overshoot the runway at Coolangatta and plough into traffic.
Instead flight D7-200 was diverted to Brisbane
Instead flight D7-200 was diverted to Brisbane
and other aircraft cleared from the runway ahead of the landing.
I wonder if Mr Hansford was calling for QF to be grounded after QF32's engine failure and diversion. After all, such incidents are "inexcusable". Fair's fair?
Christ, does no one hold b/s journalism like this accountable?
Similar incidents have happened with Australian airlines recently including:
Jetstar engine shutdown and diversion to Guam.
Jetstar emergency landing due to haze in cabin.
Qantas emergency descent due pressurisation failure.
Qantas A330 dispatching with required navigation equipment U/S
Jetstar engine shutdown and diversion to Guam.
Jetstar emergency landing due to haze in cabin.
Qantas emergency descent due pressurisation failure.
Qantas A330 dispatching with required navigation equipment U/S
However it'd be the strike rate considering how few flights (relative to your comparison) in our jurisdiction... and i do wonder if we hear all of what goes on
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unless you're from the left socialist/Marxist minority that's so vocal in Australia...
Love how people have beef and need to express the political opinions when no one asked
a flap failure is a procedure regularly practised and tested in the simulator
Why would it be nearly impossible polictically for CASA to ban them for a period?
EU did it, and i recall USA also banned Garuda for a period?
EU did it, and i recall USA also banned Garuda for a period?
Something that presents less issue for those operating out of the EU or North America.
Why would it be nearly impossible polictically for CASA to ban them for a period?
EU did it, and i recall USA also banned Garuda for a period?
EU did it, and i recall USA also banned Garuda for a period?
Just have a look at what happened to the beef trade a few years ago when the regulator caved into the bleeding hearts.
It would play out along the lines of:
-Airline gets banned.
-They then lobby their government who lobby the Australian foreign minister who calls the head of CASA directly
-Their own government could retaliate against VH registered airlines
-The airline also lobby Airservices Australia/Airports/Tourism Council who have lost revenue who in turn lobby the government
-They lobby the ACCC saying it's anti competitive.
-The airline then leaks embarrassing incidents/accidents that have happened to Australian Airlines or other established carriers to friendly newspaper
-They play the racist card in the papers.
-If the airline has a training school here they put the wind up the local member by threatening to shut it down and costing X local jobs etc
CASA then have to front uo to a Senate Inquiry into why they grounded XYZ airline and have all their processes and decisions put under the microscope.
So it's easier to just let them in and if they crash blame it on the airline and or the pilots.
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I think it's pretty simple, see that large block of airspace to the north and northwest of Australia? For Australian based carriers to fly around that would be quite an economic burden. We ban them, they ban us, and we probably need to transit that airspace more than they need our market.
Its call leverage, they have it in spades. Realpolitik
Its call leverage, they have it in spades. Realpolitik
They can't blame the weather for this one. What a joke.
Incident: AirAsia A320 at Kota Bharu on Nov 1st 2016, runway excursion during backtrack
Incident: AirAsia A320 at Kota Bharu on Nov 1st 2016, runway excursion during backtrack
Aussie tall poppy syndrome has raised its ugly head again. God bless - I'm religious apparently, well I've been told that on this forum!!
Some people just love to throw negative splat on foreign pilots when they make an error in judgment - show some respect if you consider yourself as a professional aviator.
It's only a matter of time before an Australian carrier has a haul loss resulting in major fatalities.
Some constructive positive comments would not be inappropriate from you subject matter experts.
Some people just love to throw negative splat on foreign pilots when they make an error in judgment - show some respect if you consider yourself as a professional aviator.
It's only a matter of time before an Australian carrier has a haul loss resulting in major fatalities.
Some constructive positive comments would not be inappropriate from you subject matter experts.