Qantas Near Miss Paraburdoo WA.
Thread Starter
Qantas Collision Paraburdoo WA.
From ABC
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-10-05/planes-in-near-miss-at-paraburdoo-airport-qantas-says/7906714
A Qantas plane has almost collided with another aircraft on the tarmac at Paraburdoo Airport in Western Australia's Pilbara.
Edit, changed near - miss to collision
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-10-05/planes-in-near-miss-at-paraburdoo-airport-qantas-says/7906714
A Qantas plane has almost collided with another aircraft on the tarmac at Paraburdoo Airport in Western Australia's Pilbara.
Edit, changed near - miss to collision
Last edited by Rotor Work; 6th Oct 2016 at 03:03.
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Oz
Posts: 331
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
A Qantas plane has almost collided with another aircraft on the tarmac at Paraburdoo...
Seems QF Vs QF (at least owned by QF, uniformed by QF, etc).
So, a Qantas spokesman said the planes did not touch but came extremely close..a pax says he felt a bump....and 70 pax now wait for alternate transport.
For all involved hope it was a near miss....but if there was a touch be pretty disappointing if the spokesman gets caught out in a bit of a porky. The industry needs credibility and honesty.
Seems QF Vs QF (at least owned by QF, uniformed by QF, etc).
So, a Qantas spokesman said the planes did not touch but came extremely close..a pax says he felt a bump....and 70 pax now wait for alternate transport.
For all involved hope it was a near miss....but if there was a touch be pretty disappointing if the spokesman gets caught out in a bit of a porky. The industry needs credibility and honesty.
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sydney
Posts: 66
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From the photo looks like both the HS are touching:
https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa...-mishap/#page1
https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa...-mishap/#page1
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: WA
Age: 71
Posts: 140
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Appears to be quite a spacious ( 2 aircraft)apron at PBO compared to some Pilbara regionals. WLP is very tight by comparison, still two aircraft , upper limit is the F-100. No aircraft tugs up here to disengage them, of course.
I'm up here at the moment, was changed to a Friday departure earlier in the week, instead of my usual Thursday--happy about that, as the incident is still impacting movements, currently running 5.5 hrs behind. Anyone care to comment on the rumour circulating that a third aircraft was despatched from PER to try to clear passengers, arrived and found the apron entrance blocked? if so, poor planning, could have bussed passengers to OCM. Wednesday is PBO's busiest, most aircraft full.
I'm up here at the moment, was changed to a Friday departure earlier in the week, instead of my usual Thursday--happy about that, as the incident is still impacting movements, currently running 5.5 hrs behind. Anyone care to comment on the rumour circulating that a third aircraft was despatched from PER to try to clear passengers, arrived and found the apron entrance blocked? if so, poor planning, could have bussed passengers to OCM. Wednesday is PBO's busiest, most aircraft full.
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: West AUST
Age: 62
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Rio Tinto OH&S
I bet Qantas will feel the heat from the mighty Rio OH&S deptarment now, JHA and a Take5 to be performed before every take off and landing and do the crew have a working at heights, I could go on.
What about the bloke in the west this West this morning (a passenger on the plane) who was commenting that the someone on the ground was waving at the pilot and he and all the others could not understand why the person did not have a radio on to call the pilot.
I can see what will happen next, maybe the problem is with the 8&6 roster is that the airport needs to many planes to move people so why not go back to 2&1 and that should sort the problem or even residential where there are towns. Argh the mining game!
What about the bloke in the west this West this morning (a passenger on the plane) who was commenting that the someone on the ground was waving at the pilot and he and all the others could not understand why the person did not have a radio on to call the pilot.
I can see what will happen next, maybe the problem is with the 8&6 roster is that the airport needs to many planes to move people so why not go back to 2&1 and that should sort the problem or even residential where there are towns. Argh the mining game!
Appears to be quite a spacious ( 2 aircraft)apron at PBO compared to some Pilbara regionals. WLP is very tight by comparison, still two aircraft , upper limit is the F-100. No aircraft tugs up here to disengage them, of course.
Oh course the assumption here is that the Bays have been measured and marked correctly.
Where is Geoffrey Thomas when you need him?
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: WA
Age: 71
Posts: 140
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
If you look at the photos there's actually three jets parked there. Spacious if you're in a C152 but probably not in a 717. Interested to hear the thoughts of a 717 driven in how you can strike the tailplane but not the wingtip. I would have thought that if the wingtip made it then everything else should be OK. My only guess would be they straitened out too early instead of turning right around.
Someone was calling the pilots on the radio, half the Pilbara heard it!!!
What about this as a hypothesis?
Outbound QJ looks to have not gotten lined up with the taxiway out to the runway. Difficult to tell in the photos/video though.
Why might that have been?
Gut feeling is the parked-on-the-bay QJ was taxiing onto the bay as the outbound QJ vacated the bay and then clipped the Network F100.
I doubt the F100 was parked so wrong that it was in the way of an aircraft vacating the bay next to it. But that is also possible.
ParkingHell, you probably jest about Take5's. At least I hope you do. It's been tried on before, but resisted I might add!
Outbound QJ looks to have not gotten lined up with the taxiway out to the runway. Difficult to tell in the photos/video though.
Why might that have been?
Gut feeling is the parked-on-the-bay QJ was taxiing onto the bay as the outbound QJ vacated the bay and then clipped the Network F100.
I doubt the F100 was parked so wrong that it was in the way of an aircraft vacating the bay next to it. But that is also possible.
ParkingHell, you probably jest about Take5's. At least I hope you do. It's been tried on before, but resisted I might add!
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: West AUST
Age: 62
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
What about this as a hypothesis?
Outbound QJ looks to have not gotten lined up with the taxiway out to the runway. Difficult to tell in the photos/video though.
Why might that have been?
Gut feeling is the parked-on-the-bay QJ was taxiing onto the bay as the outbound QJ vacated the bay and then clipped the Network F100.
I doubt the F100 was parked so wrong that it was in the way of an aircraft vacating the bay next to it. But that is also possible.
ParkingHell, you probably jest about Take5's. At least I hope you do. It's been tried on before, but resisted I might add!
Outbound QJ looks to have not gotten lined up with the taxiway out to the runway. Difficult to tell in the photos/video though.
Why might that have been?
Gut feeling is the parked-on-the-bay QJ was taxiing onto the bay as the outbound QJ vacated the bay and then clipped the Network F100.
I doubt the F100 was parked so wrong that it was in the way of an aircraft vacating the bay next to it. But that is also possible.
ParkingHell, you probably jest about Take5's. At least I hope you do. It's been tried on before, but resisted I might add!
They will feast on this for months.
Tale of Two Tails
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, ...
The dimensions for the B717 and the Fokker F100 are interesting. On an uniformly flat surface, depending on weight, the F100 should have somewhere between -5cm - +20cm clearance (or lack thereof) over the Boeing. Looks like it was considerably closer to -5cm than +20cm, thus it was the worst of times.
The dimensions for the B717 and the Fokker F100 are interesting. On an uniformly flat surface, depending on weight, the F100 should have somewhere between -5cm - +20cm clearance (or lack thereof) over the Boeing. Looks like it was considerably closer to -5cm than +20cm, thus it was the worst of times.
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Perth - Western Australia
Age: 75
Posts: 1,805
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Seem to recall spotting the tails of two camouflage-coloured Caribou sticking up above the low native vegetation, whilst parked on the Corrigin airstrip (YCIG), on a summery late Saturday afternoon, about 1984 as I recall, when I was travelling Eastwards towards Corrigin on the Brookton Hwy.
Corrigin was used regularly for SAS parachuting exercises, but I'd never seen any Caribous parked up there, with dark-thirty coming on. They always went home for tea.
Somewhat puzzled at the apparent abandonment of a couple of prize items of RAAF armament, I pulled into the airstrip to "suss the situation out" (no airside security, no passes, not even a fence or gate, back in those glorious days!).
There wasn't even a picket stationed on the aircraft!!
A quick drive around the aircraft, and the horrifying and sickening evidence immediately became very obvious. Both aircraft were sporting a modest amount of wingtip damage!
It appears an ill-judged turn didn't take into account just how far that wing was sticking out!
I've no doubt come the following Monday, there were some serious repercussions in the CO's or Adjutants office, involving penalties, and possibly rank and status! - and I've always wanted to know what the final repair bill was!
Corrigin was used regularly for SAS parachuting exercises, but I'd never seen any Caribous parked up there, with dark-thirty coming on. They always went home for tea.
Somewhat puzzled at the apparent abandonment of a couple of prize items of RAAF armament, I pulled into the airstrip to "suss the situation out" (no airside security, no passes, not even a fence or gate, back in those glorious days!).
There wasn't even a picket stationed on the aircraft!!
A quick drive around the aircraft, and the horrifying and sickening evidence immediately became very obvious. Both aircraft were sporting a modest amount of wingtip damage!
It appears an ill-judged turn didn't take into account just how far that wing was sticking out!
I've no doubt come the following Monday, there were some serious repercussions in the CO's or Adjutants office, involving penalties, and possibly rank and status! - and I've always wanted to know what the final repair bill was!
Qantas reveals Paraburdoo Airport runway 'near miss' was a collision - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
"Qantas reveals Paraburdoo Airport runway 'near miss' was a collision"
What a surprise. Nearly a near miss.
"Qantas reveals Paraburdoo Airport runway 'near miss' was a collision"
What a surprise. Nearly a near miss.