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Old 26th May 2017, 04:09
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Tommy Bahama is correct.Seniority is not the best system,but it is the best system available for the reasons given above.
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Old 26th May 2017, 11:58
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Like it or not.

Seniority is the best speed hump to mitigate stupidity*.

(*stupidity being pole climbing or what ever creative circumstance presents itself.)
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Old 27th May 2017, 06:11
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Skysook, could you please go back and read that EBA before you go sprouting off your opinion on what it says? The 10% is the minimum the company has to release. A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing...
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Old 27th May 2017, 09:45
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Originally Posted by t_cas
Like it or not.

Seniority is the best speed hump to mitigate stupidity*.

(*stupidity being pole climbing or what ever creative circumstance presents itself.)
Exactly.
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Old 28th May 2017, 05:27
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Originally Posted by 206greaser
Skysook, could you please go back and read that EBA before you go sprouting off your opinion on what it says? The 10% is the minimum the company has to release. A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing...
Could you elaborate on your interpretation of this please?

Because my interpretation is that once they have released the 10% then there is no further requirement to release any more in that rolling 12 month period. The intent being to prevent the crippling of VARA pilot numbers. Ofcourse the company reserves the right to release more if they wish. I thought this was pretty clear.
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Old 1st Jun 2017, 02:57
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I know of one VARA FO from F100 moving to the B737 so far.
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Old 1st Jun 2017, 03:48
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...and one F100 capt moving to 737 FO.
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Old 1st Jun 2017, 10:36
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Is that because not many of them want to leave that side of the operation? I hear the lifestyle is pretty good there?
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Old 1st Jun 2017, 10:42
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Think the lifestyle is good everywhere bar 737 VAA east coast.
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Old 2nd Jun 2017, 01:38
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Think the lifestyle is good everywhere bar 737 VAA east coast.
which is the majority of the VA group.
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Old 26th Jun 2017, 09:59
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http://http://careers.virginaustralia.com/mob/cw/en/job/498564/flight-crew-opportunities-first-second-officer-positions-australia-new-zealand
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Old 26th Jun 2017, 17:19
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Anyone here please kindly advise how long it may/will take for referee checks please currently? Many thanks!
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Old 15th Jul 2017, 00:51
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****WARNING****

VA are now recruiting direct entry to 737 domestic positions. If they offer you ATR do not accept! Unless of course you want to live in CBR or SYD for the next possibly 10 years (or you are a cadet). Given the current EBA that's a definite time frame.

Forewarned is forearmed
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Old 15th Jul 2017, 10:51
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Start date is in august mate. Best bit is the candidate was originally offered ATR.

When you say eligible you mean internals? That seems a bit high but I'll buy it.

Morale? We don't need no stinking morale...
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Old 15th Jul 2017, 13:28
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We don't need no stinking morale...
That's fortunate, because we don't have any!!!
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Old 15th Jul 2017, 17:22
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Originally Posted by boeinginthewest
Hi 206.

This must be a rumour. I know the nufty's have advertised online for 737 direct entry.. You know there is about 250-300 eligible for 737 yes?

It will do wonders for morale if true. Can the 5hit show get any worse?
It's cost saving, they don't have to backfill this way of course.
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Old 16th Jul 2017, 05:13
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Pilot Opportunities

Virgin Australia provides entry opportunities in Australia to Boeing 737 First Officer, Fokker 100 First Officer, Boeing 777 Second Officer, and ATR 72 First Officer positions. Additionally, we provide entry opportunities in New Zealand to Boeing 737 First Officer positions. Virgin Australia’s minimum requirements are listed below. We strongly encourage those who meet minimum requirements to express their interest in Virgin Australia by submitting an application.

The majority of pilots can at this time expect entry into the Virgin Australia Group via Australian based Fokker 100 First Officer, Boeing 777 Second Officer and ATR 72 First Officer roles as well as New Zealand based Boeing 737 First Officer roles.
InZed this is what their website says TODAY.

Not what you wrote.You left out TWO important points. You could get a job in commercial TV news with those skills.

.pilots can at this time expect entry into the Virgin Australia Group via Australian based Fokker 100 First Officer, Boeing 777 Second Officer and ATR 72 First Officer roles as well as New Zealand based Boeing 737 First Officer roles.
Here it is...http://careers.virginaustralia.com/m...ia-new-zealand
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Old 16th Jul 2017, 10:37
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I feel sorry for the poor suckers on the ATR who will be stuck there for years. Not because it's a bad aircraft, but because guys off the street will get starts on the domestic fleet and earn twice as much from day one. I guess SA and JT were joking when they said ATR pilots were valued and part of the team. Turns out it's the leper fleet!
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Old 19th Jul 2017, 13:27
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So no takers from inside VA for the F100 FO jobs posted today on AFAP? Surely the Fokker would be a better proposition than the ATR? Externals are not taking the dangling carrot on the F100 or ATR or 777 SO as they know VA are severly understaffed on the 737. Just a matter of time hey boys and girls? In addition the current ATR guys are leaving and will continue to leave on a weekly basis as they face a cap and can't transfer to the 737 as an FO or SO on the 777, except for several guys recently, and apparently out of order of seniority, equating to more that will walk.
Suddenly you have a fleet that will be grounded, Alliance will then also take all the NSW flying, the loyal customer will be confused as to why an Uber turned up after ordering the Silver Service Taxi, then as Johnny Young used to say after a great night of singing and dancing 'good night Australia'. Very sad...
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Old 19th Jul 2017, 13:43
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Alliance turn up to do a Virgin flight.

Just like Cobham and Network do for Qantas.
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