Virgin Australia recruitment

[atcapplicant16]

Virgin check in / customer service

Hi just wondering if anyone can tell me what it's like to be a baggage check in /customer service for Virgin.
1. What is the job like
2. pros and cons of the job
3. Can you do part time
4. How do you find positions? Seek? Virgin website?
5. The approximate remuneration

Thanks in advance

[Wiggley]

I hear there are a number of interviews happening/coming up. Anyone know what sort of numbers they're looking for?

Any Pro's or Con's for the various fleets?

[Brakerider]

Can anybody give me an idea of the usual roster patterns for a VANZ 737 Pilot? I've heard they do a lot of trips from SYD, i.e. fly CHC-SYD then operate from SYD out to the islands for a few days, then back to CHC.

Is the position in any way commutable?

Is there any protection now for VANZ pilots to take VA slots above Tiger pilots? Or once 2018 hits, any new hire VANZ is behind every tiger pilot for a 737 F/O slot at VA?

[big buddah]

Nz bases are not commuting.
They do 1 day through to 6 day trips.
You will be at the bottom of the group list VAA, VANZ, Vara and tiger. It's currently a 30 month bond to Nz then move in the group of seniority.
You will be number 1700 plus for a move

[KRUSTY 34]

I think 2017 is going to be an interesting year, after speaking to a senior Captain yesterday.

Long service leave increasing exponentially, and potentially even more serious, the emergence of more commuting contracts with Chinese carriers. With the enormous requirements of the Chinese alone, we may see offers simply too good to ignore.

If some of the Middle Eastern carriers are forced to follow suit, will we see a race for what's left here in Oz?

[Jeps]

Krusty,

By race for what's left in oz do you mean the oz airlines will have to scrape the bottom of the barrel to get the remaining suitable pilots we have left? If so, I have heard strong echoes of the same sentiment.

[Duck Pilot]

The experience pool is drying up, time for QF to drop their educational requirements and focus more on experience and ability.

[IsDon]

Originally Posted by Duck Pilot

The experience pool is drying up, time for QF to drop their educational requirements and focus more on experience and ability.

That's not going to happen. Australian airlines have enough candidates with the required educational minimums and experienced expats looking to come home. Why would they?

Maybe you should have listened to your Mum and studied maths and science to HSC level rather than leaving school early or choosing veggie subjects.

[itsnotthatbloodyhard]

time for QF to drop their educational requirements and focus more on experience and ability.

The word on the street is that in this brave new world of HR-led QF recruiting, they're favouring low-time applicants over more experienced ones from other airlines or the military. The reasoning being that a low-time bloke who's been scraping by in some low-paid job will be so grateful to have a job at QF that they won't ever rock the boat. In other words, they're prioritising industrial compliance over experience and expertise. Good news for Virgin if it's true.

Hopefully this is nothing more than rumour, but it came from a credible source and was supposedly confirmed by a management type.

If it's true, I'm blaming IsDon.

[Slezy9]

Originally Posted by itsnotthatbloodyhard

The word on the street is that in this brave new world of HR-led QF recruiting, they're favouring low-time applicants over more experienced ones from other airlines or the military. The reasoning being that a low-time bloke who's been scraping by in some low-paid job will be so grateful to have a job at QF that they won't ever rock the boat. In other words, they're prioritising industrial compliance over experience and expertise. Good news for Virgin if it's true.

Hopefully this is nothing more than rumour, but it came from a credible source and was supposedly confirmed by a management type.

If it's true, I'm blaming IsDon.

I can anecdotally back that up. I know of a few "interesting" people who have got interviews with Qantas while very few experienced military QFI's have done anything beyond stage 1.

[morno]

That's not going to happen. Australian airlines have enough candidates with the required educational minimums and experienced expats looking to come home. Why would they?

Maybe you should have listened to your Mum and studied maths and science to HSC level rather than leaving school early or choosing veggie subjects

And just how, IsDon, would that make me a better applicant when I finished Year 12 nearly 15 years ago, and I've had nearly the same amount of time since in the industry, having passed all the theory for a pilot license, as well as numerous type ratings, several thousand hours of flying experience and years of life experience?

What a load of crap.

morno

[SandyPalms]

No one seems to be able to find the right thread.

[High_To_Low]

Morno,

It's got next to nothing to do with what you studied...finishing High School and/or Tertiary education is used for two reasons:

1. Culling mechanism
2. To show an employer you have a certain level of dedication, motivation and aptitude beyond something aviation related.

I know (and knew back then) a lot of crap I learnt at High School and Uni has no relevance to the professional field I was pursuing but I did graduate highest in my year both in High School and University, not because I'm naturally smart but because I worked my ass off and tried to broaden my knowledge base....it reveals alot about a person's psych I would say....

[34R]

It's a culling mechanism and nothing else.

Anything they want to learn about your motivation/psych/crystal ball/tea leaves they use their psych test.

Now back to all things VA, recent interviews have given opportunities to a string of GA drivers who funnily enough came from similar backgrounds to a lot of VA's current drivers during the boom years. I would hardly call that scraping the bottom of the barrel!

Those guys and girls made a decent fist of it, and I have no doubt the new ones will as well.

Lots more positions to be filled.....

[lee_apromise]

We should do something like US.

Bachelor degrees required for majors. Such an easy filter.

Btw, 500 PIC can be substituted 500 ICUS as FO or not?

[grrowler]

How do you log ICUS as an FO?

[lee_apromise]

How do you log ICUS as an FO?

FO acting as PF logs as PIC/ICUS in FAA land. Other countries do it all the time too. Otherwise, how do you get ATPL if you got an airline job after getting your CPL? Don't know about Australia.

[Tankengine]

We should do something like US.

Bachelor degrees required for majors. Such an easy filter.

Btw, 500 PIC can be substituted 500 ICUS as FO

Why not?
HR seems to think cadets with an arts degree are better than experienced pilots anyway.
An idiot filter would be great - but impossible.

[havick]

Originally Posted by lee_apromise

FO acting as PF logs as PIC/ICUS in FAA land. Other countries do it all the time too. Otherwise, how do you get ATPL if you got an airline job after getting your CPL? Don't know about Australia.

Not true. If you look at all the recruiting pages for FedEx, Delta, UPS etc pretty much all the decent companies only accept PIC time from 121 operators when you were actually left side captain/signing for the aircraft. They don't recognize FO time logged as PIC.

[lee_apromise]

Of course, everyone in the states knows that. FAA logbook does not have ICUS column. Hence SIC performing PF logs hours under PIC column. No idiot will claim this type of PIC hour as Part 121 PIC hours requirement. It is just for the purpose of meeting Part 61 requirement. But then again, one needs 1500 hours for 121 ops so nobody bothers with this kind of question.

Originally Posted by havick

Not true. If you look at all the recruiting pages for FedEx, Delta, UPS etc pretty much all the decent companies only accept PIC time from 121 operators when you were actually left side captain/signing for the aircraft. They don't recognize FO time logged as PIC.