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Old 27th Jun 2019, 02:35
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Anyone been invited to an VANZ interview recently?

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Old 27th Jun 2019, 06:22
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ATR DEC’s NOW OFF THE TABLE

Word has it that VARA is no longer looking at Direct Entry Captains for their ATR Operation.

After extending the the deadline for the current application due to internal lack of interest, it seems that the increase in ATR Captains salary may have done the trick? ​​​​​​​
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Old 27th Jun 2019, 09:28
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Originally Posted by KRUSTY 34
After extending the the deadline for the current application due to internal lack of interest, it seems that the increase in ATR Captains salary may have done the trick? ​​​​​​​
Why are you rolling your eyes? Is this not a good thing?

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Old 27th Jun 2019, 21:28
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Why are you rolling your eyes? Is this not a good thing?
I'd hazard a guess he was thinking the salary may have been a problem for a while, but it took the smart ones in the room so long to figure that out. Yes, it is a good thing. Better late than never I suppose.
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Old 27th Jun 2019, 23:25
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Out of curiosity what is the old vs new salary?
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Old 28th Jun 2019, 02:00
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Originally Posted by WillieTheWimp
Out of curiosity what is the old vs new salary?
What new salary?? There is no new EBA and it seems no urgency from the company to finalise anything. So as it stands, average CAPTs pay and very average FO pay. Guys on the ATR are still looking at leaving and will. Sometimes, it's a case of too little too late.
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Old 28th Jun 2019, 02:12
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My understanding is that commencing July 1, the ATR Captains pay is now comparable to 737 F/O salary for same years of service, although I am happy to stand corrected. The main reason for my was that previous attempts to lure Jet F/O’s across included a promise of a substantial pay cut! It’s only taken several years of angst for them to finally work out why no one was interested!

With such a small, fleet, the extra cost in wages is so insignificant in the scheme of the operation, you would have thought it to be a no brainer!
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Old 29th Jun 2019, 10:30
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Hi Krusty 34.

Yes, you would have thought it's a no brainer, although that is big picture stuff, and hard to focus on when KPI is the word on the street...Apparently the new CEO is on the ball, and hopefully, he can see the forest for the trees.

I've been told the current situation is as follows:
The EBA expired on 1 July 2018. So as it stands at the moment, there is no new salary as of Monday 1 July 2019. The company and unions are still playing the game, and the remaining 60 or so ATR pilots, are frustrated and not impressed. They are lucky they have only lost 1 CAPT and 1 FO in the past few months. All that is required now is another sweep from QF and/or JQ for crew, and there will be another 6 aircraft permanently stored in Nelson.

If you join today the pay is ATR 72 Captain Year 1 approx. $115,000, and ATR 72 FO Year 1 $75,000.
Currently 2-3 overnights away per week, and regular massive waits between flights(up to 3.5 hrs) and yes 3-4 sectors per day. Progression to the jets I hear? If you are at the top of the tree then maybe yes, if you are in the middle and below or have just joined, then you might get awarded a job, although being released is another issue. Once you might get to the jet, then enjoy the RHS for at least another 10 years plus.

This has come from a very reliable source that I have known for over 25 years, and as you said, I'm happy to stand corrected as well. All the best!

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Old 30th Jun 2019, 02:13
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Thanks LB.

Sort of makes one curious as to how they were able to lure enough Jet F/O’s across.

It takes all kinds I suppose?
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Old 30th Jun 2019, 02:33
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Krusty,
No Jet FO's from VA mainline (737, 777 or 330) have ever gone to the ATR to date. All recent guys with jet experience have come from overseas.
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Old 30th Jun 2019, 04:06
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Well, isn’t that interesting.

A “Source” has informed me that all applications for DEC have been “Binned” in favour of internal applicants?

Another seperate source has confirmed that despite over 17,000 hours and more than decade of Regional turboprop Command experience, he has been informed that he is no longer competitive!

They do need Captains, right?
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Old 30th Jun 2019, 05:09
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Originally Posted by "Littlebird"
Krusty,
No Jet FO's from VA mainline (737, 777 or 330) have ever gone to the ATR to date. All recent guys with jet experience have come from overseas.
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This is not correct
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Originally Posted by Mr Google Head


This is not correct
I'm happy to be corrected Mr Google Head, please elaborate?
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Old 30th Jun 2019, 08:31
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I'm not sure if they need Captains Krusty. Perhaps the company is hoping that after an EBA gets all signed up, jet FO's will want to go to the ATR.
Perhaps Mr Google Head or someone else in the know can answer your question.
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Originally Posted by "Littlebird"
I'm happy to be corrected Mr Google Head, please elaborate?
There has been Jet FO movement from mainline to ATR...the number probably small but not zero.
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Originally Posted by "Littlebird"
I'm not sure if they need Captains Krusty. Perhaps the company is hoping that after an EBA gets all signed up, jet FO's will want to go to the ATR.
Perhaps Mr Google Head or someone else in the know can answer your question.
They need 8 Captains LB. 4 in Sydney and 4 in Canberra.

If HR or Recruitment, or whoever is in charge of these things are speculating that people will come across rather than processing the last round of qualified applicants, then I suppose they’re way smarter than I am!
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Originally Posted by KRUSTY 34
Well, isn’t that interesting.

A “Source” has informed me that all applications for DEC have been “Binned” in favour of internal applicants?
Can this be true since applications only closed yesterday?
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Can this be true since applications only closed yesterday?
Apparently so.

Remembering a Source is still just a Source?
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Old 17th Jul 2019, 07:15
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Originally Posted by kjvmw
Anyone been invited to an VANZ interview recently?

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Hi mate

could you please let me know if you hear anything as well.
i have interview coming up as well
thanks
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Old 31st Jul 2019, 18:26
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Hi Everyone,

I was chatting to a mate who said that one of his mates told him that Virgin is not going to run any course for the rest of 2019 at this stage. He said that they need about 10 737 drivers split between Aus & NZ but after that nothing.

I interviewed in Brisbane early this year and received an email saying that my application was successful pending reference checks. If anyone with inside info has more knowledge on this please help, I would like to know if I am going to be on the hold file into 2020.

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