Virgin Australia recruitment

[No Idea Either]

Flying positions......not many Goaty, but truckloads of SO and VAI 737 Like every one else here has mentioned, there will be no direct entry Oz based 737 anymore. Plenty of NZ based and plenty of 777 SO, so I would suggest get one of those if you can, and get on the seniority list. Holding out is just damaging your prospects. It’s unlikely, but you never know, the music might stop....or at least slow down a bit.

[Tommy Bahama]

Originally Posted by No Idea Either

Flying positions......not many Goaty, but truckloads of SO and VAI 737 Like every one else here has mentioned, there will be no direct entry Oz based 737 anymore. Plenty of NZ based and plenty of 777 SO, so I would suggest get one of those if you can, and get on the seniority list. Holding out is just damaging your prospects. It’s unlikely, but you never know, the music might stop....or at least slow down a bit.

Or if you want a wide body career go to Qantas.

[No Idea Either]

No arguments from me tommy. My point is just get in anywhere and get on a list. Commands in VA are out to 10 years now. Death Star probably the same. There is a small window of opportunity at QF to reduce command time down to around 15 years but it will be back to the 20+ soon, and VA and JQ will be up there eventually. Take a position.....get on a list.....get some jet time.....get a command eventually or go to China with a bit of time up your sleeve. Do not sit around scratching your arse waiting for the dream direct entry FO 73. It has happened in the past, probably won’t happen anymore. Do not turn down an offer of a position, you’re mad if you do, or not really committed. The airlines will sniff this and you may blow your chance. It is mercenary now, none of this career for life stuff (even at QF the career is taking a beating). Take a slot at JQ/VA then take a slot at QF 12 months later if it happens. Don’t be shy, be in it to win it........or go into IT.

[galdian]

Great post(s) by No Idea Either - sums things up succinctly, should be read by anyone going the airline route.

Disagree slightly on one point - the music WILL stop at some stage because it always does - for how many years did Qantas NOT recruit?? - and the airlines will use any means possible (cadets, P2F, overseas....whatever) to get bums in seats to press the buttons, standards optional.
They will get the numbers up.... then go quiet again.

Sadly HR and their like have established themselves as a cancer (untreatable at this stage) and one has little choice but to spend the extra $$ on practice of the psychobabble they require, not the way it should be but the way it is.

Qualifications and experience optional. Psychobabble essential. Such is the brave new world.

Cheers.

[Superawsome]

Does anyone know anything about the new EBA @VANZ?

[Aussie-kiwi]

VANZ CEA

Superawsome, They started negotiating last week. So will be a while before the details are known.

[XanaduX]

Does VANZ currently have people on the hold file, and if so, how long have people been waiting for a class date?

[mattyj]

I haven’t had a classy date since the 90’s

[Aussie-kiwi]

XandaduX, yes they do. And usually within a few months. Word on the street is a type rating course every month this year and first few months of next year.

[XanaduX]

Originally Posted by Aussie-kiwi

XandaduX, yes they do. And usually within a few months. Word on the street is a type rating course every month this year and first few months of next year.

Thanks mate .. do you know whether the numbers quoted here for VANZ are still accurate and whether it's NZD or AUD?

Australian Airline wages compilation

[Aussie-kiwi]

Originally Posted by XanaduX

Thanks mate .. do you know whether the numbers quoted here for VANZ are still accurate and whether it's NZD or AUD?

NZD: FO: $103950 year 1, $112217 Year 2, $120606 year 3

NZD: CAPT: $176776 year 1, $185772 year 2, and $194769 year 3

Hope this helps.

[XanaduX]

Originally Posted by Aussie-kiwi

NZD: FO: $103950 year 1, $112217 Year 2, $120606 year 3

NZD: CAPT: $176776 year 1, $185772 year 2, and $194769 year 3

Hope this helps.

Ouch! Thanks mate. It sure does help.

[Aussie-kiwi]

Originally Posted by XanaduX

Ouch! Thanks mate. It sure does help.

SORRY, forgot to reinforce that these are likely to get more competitive (go up) over the next few months as the new collective agreement is negotiated. Nothing is guaranteed of course until the contract is ratified. Watch this space.

[snakeslugger]

Aus EBA...

AUD $128-151K FO
AUD $233K CPT
they better go up a hell of a lot.

[Aussie-kiwi]

Originally Posted by snakeslugger

Aus EBA...

AUD $128-151K FO
AUD $233K CPT
they better go up a hell of a lot.

Yes. I know the guys are hopeful it will get close to this. (Pay equality for NZ based pilots). I suspect the company will drive a hard bargain though.

[anonfly]

Just remember you pay less tax in nz so you need to do your numbers.
Those numbers are not as bad as the look once you take into account your actual take home pay.

[aussie1234]

You don’t pay less tax until you make about $145k. No tax free threshold in NZ rates are similar at different thresholds. GST 15% not 10%. No super. There is KiwiSaver and you can choose to contribute 4% and the company will match that 4% plus the real kicker, good luck finding a house in Auckland under a million that your missus would live in. And before anyone else asks, no you shouldn’t commute.

[snakeslugger]

Originally Posted by anonfly

Just remember you pay less tax in nz so you need to do your numbers.
Those numbers are not as bad as the look once you take into account your actual take home pay.

with 12.25% super next year and current exchange rate, I think it’s still a significant difference.

[bangbounceboeing]

Why would anybody even want to join Virgin at the moment when the "other" big player in town is expanding their fleet, adding international destinations and most importantly, making a sizeable profit and sharing the booty with its employees whilst virgin achieves none of above. ��

[thefeatheredone]

Because some people still refer to themselves as “male” or “female”.... hence making them ineligible at the interview stage for the other major player