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Old 14th Feb 2023, 03:30
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Originally Posted by ChadValient
There are still hundreds of pilots that could return to VA, myself included. I was a 12 year VANZ Captain, but my seniority at the moment would only let me return as an FO. I have a command with an Airline in Oceania which I am enjoying. Once my VA seniority moves to the point where I can return as a Captain I will probably go back. I have until 2026 to decide. I know a lot of ex VA guys and girls in a similar position.
Given that, if I was hired off the street today, what would the difference be in years before command, depending on if you all come back or not? It sounds like the 14 years quoted above would be pretty optimistic if the majority did return by 2026?

That’s sounding worse than Qantas, where there’s at least WB right hand seats as an option and by all accounts, a considerably larger income for the same roles.
Lifetime NB FO doesn’t have a particularly great ring to it (unless Virgin FOs have an increasing payscale for years of service like QF which takes the sting out of it?)
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Old 15th Feb 2023, 00:01
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Have they started interviewing externals again this year?
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Old 15th Feb 2023, 01:35
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Have they started interviewing externals again this year?
​​​​​​​Yes
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Old 15th Feb 2023, 04:02
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Originally Posted by startno1
Have they started interviewing externals again this year?
yep...all last week, this week and next week.
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Old 15th Feb 2023, 13:34
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I'm an expat with 12K TT and 7500 PIC on the A320. Looking to return to Oz. I received an email from Virgin Recruitment (I assume it's a stock email) noting:

"At this stage, due to the large volume of applications, we are processing candidates who are a closer match to our selection criteria. Please do continue to update your application in any changes in hours or experience. As your application becomes more competitive, we will reconsider your application and be in touch."

Just wondering if anyone can offer any advice as to where I may be falling short? Is the fact I don't have 737 time the problem? Any suggestions as to what I could I do to make myself more competitive?
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Old 15th Feb 2023, 20:32
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Had heard that the recent command upgrade course 3 just didnt turn up. They have new opportunities outside of VA.
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Old 15th Feb 2023, 21:15
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Originally Posted by RustyFlyerBoy
I'm an expat with 12K TT and 7500 PIC on the A320. Looking to return to Oz. I received an email from Virgin Recruitment (I assume it's a stock email) noting:

"At this stage, due to the large volume of applications, we are processing candidates who are a closer match to our selection criteria. Please do continue to update your application in any changes in hours or experience. As your application becomes more competitive, we will reconsider your application and be in touch."

Just wondering if anyone can offer any advice as to where I may be falling short? Is the fact I don't have 737 time the problem? Any suggestions as to what I could I do to make myself more competitive?
Sounds like you haven’t ticked every box on the application therefore you receive a generic email response. I’m sure if an actual human looked at your application you would have an interview tomorrow. Good luck .
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Old 16th Feb 2023, 01:36
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I can’t for the life of me understand why anyone would be applying to VA at the moment. It’s the worst airline job in the country. There is no progression, staff are on some of the worst t&c’s, morale is at an all time low and management don’t care about anyone or anything apart from the $$ they make for themselves. The best they can do for pilots is allow them to wear their uniform in the lounge and business class (not that it’s ever available).

People are leaving in droves. The only people who I understand who would apply for it are the young folk who have never flow a jet and think it’s some big exciting company. Really, you’re much better off at network, cobham, alliance or QF. The others can provide some form of career progression (think quick commands) or at least provide stability, good pay and let you live in the base you want. VA can offer none of that, especially if you don’t live in Sydney or Melbourne.
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Old 16th Feb 2023, 03:58
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Red69 kinda hit the nail on the head right there. Ask around, you’ll be hard pressed to find anybody who actually enjoys working for virgin. Most just take the pay check to cover the bills and provide for the family and nothing more.
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Old 16th Feb 2023, 04:21
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I’m not at all disagreeing with you but what airline in Australia do people actually enjoy working for and can claim management are caring with high staff morale? I can’t really think of any.
It’s a sad reflection of the state of the industry and disconnect between management and staff.

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Old 16th Feb 2023, 09:20
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Red69 have a read of some of the posts on here - hardly seems like Network or Cobham etc are happy camps either. Even despite it being the 'pinnacle', there is a bit of bitching from the guys at QF too.....
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Old 16th Feb 2023, 11:00
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I understand that every airline has their issues, however VA is the bottom of the pit imo. If you join now, you are at the bottom of an ever long list where you won’t know where you truely stand until 2026.

At QF, you are remunerated well. At the subsidiaries, there are opportunities for quick commands and career progression. VA provides neither of these options. You’ll be a jet FO not earning much and wondering what your future holds when the airline is floated (and loaded up with debt again). If you want any form of certainty, lifestyle or remuneration that matches or beats market rates, VA isn’t the place for you.

All I know is that resignations are greatly increasing. It will be a struggle to pitch and offload an airline if there are no pilots around to fly their planes.
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Old 17th Feb 2023, 04:01
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You’ll be a jet FO not earning much and wondering what your future holds
An amazing lack of awareness of salary conditions in Australia.
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Old 17th Feb 2023, 14:27
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Mainline seniority vs progression

What stops someone from jumping ship from VA to Network? Is it always better having a seniority at a major airline vs quick command add network with no QF seniority aka dead end?
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Old 18th Feb 2023, 02:14
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Originally Posted by RustyFlyerBoy
I'm an expat with 12K TT and 7500 PIC on the A320. Looking to return to Oz. I received an email from Virgin Recruitment (I assume it's a stock email) noting:

"At this stage, due to the large volume of applications, we are processing candidates who are a closer match to our selection criteria. Please do continue to update your application in any changes in hours or experience. As your application becomes more competitive, we will reconsider your application and be in touch."

Just wondering if anyone can offer any advice as to where I may be falling short? Is the fact I don't have 737 time the problem? Any suggestions as to what I could I do to make myself more competitive?
Mate you should apply to network, pay similar and you might jag a DEC with a nice sign on bonus. I don't know too many people who are happy with the T and Cs at VA and who knows what will happen when they try to float it
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Old 22nd Feb 2023, 02:41
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Anyone able to provide a rough idea on how many hours per roster ? And what bases are they looking for ? Cheers
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Old 22nd Feb 2023, 17:26
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Average 70-80 hours per roster, obviously there are some down near 60 and some well over 90. I think recruitment would be for all bases with ADL PER and SYD being the more junior bases than MEL and BNE. BNE seems to be the most popular base and probably the hardest to get for both FO and CAPT.

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Old 23rd Feb 2023, 05:16
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If you were to take the first base offered is there a stand down period before being able to bid for your first choice?
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Old 23rd Feb 2023, 05:34
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Yep...was told by HR that BNE can expect a few years as a very, very long list of ppl wanting to transfer here.
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Old 23rd Feb 2023, 09:31
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Originally Posted by kjvmw
If you were to take the first base offered is there a stand down period before being able to bid for your first choice?
You can bid straight away and subject to vacancies you’ll get awarded it when you are next in line for it based on date of joining. We have monthly bid imports for upgrades and base transfers.
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